:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Bottom five coaches in the league!??!? What is with your irrational hate for Mangini?? Did he bitch slap you or something? Every other post of yours is some incoherent, rambling attack on Mangini, usually featuring words like "magina" and "Manfuckhead". Worse yet, a lot of times the thread isn't even about Mangini or his coaching ability. He's OBVIOUSLY NOT in the bottom five coaches in the league. In my opinion, he's one of the best young coaches in the NFL. Obviously, you think I'm just a Jets homer. Coaches verifiably worse than Mangini: Norv Turner Rod Marinelli Romeo Crennell Herman Edwards Wade Phillips Brad Chilldress (sp?) (these are just the obvious ones. There are many other coaches who I think Mangini is better than but these are clearly the bottom coaches in the league right now) and by the way, do you really "stand by that 100%"? Did Jeff Fisher outcoach him two weeks ago? (answer honestly)
While Mangini's game planning might not belong to the bottom half, his second-half adjustment certainly does. Now add the fool Bob Sutton calling shot for his defense, and you have a mess when you are behind. Horrible calls come and go - Broncos got 2 wins out of it this season alone, including one game vs us - but you cannot bitch about bad refs and then fuck up the game. They are professional football players for a reason. They must learn to shut up, suck it up and move on. Seriously, I was expecting more dose of Thomas Jones when Jets fell behind 7-0. As long as the offense keeps the opposing defense tired, it will have a shot in the second half - more than so in 4th - no? I was expecting keep-it-close game till the breakout 4th quarter. Instead, this offense all of a sudden gives up on its running game like it's behind 100 points. What the fuck.
Wow, so you named 6? He is worse than Turner and Wade Phillips. Both of them had their teams in the playoffs last year while shithead was going 4-12. The rest are those I put him in the list with. He is a terrible coach and was only hired because he was as cheap to get as Edwards was. The other thing you need to accept is how cheap the owner is and don't bring up how much they spent this year. they will be gone as fast as the PSLs are sold. Did Fisher out coach him? Probably. There were no obvious coaching mistakes by either team in that game. Let me ask you something. Are you seriously saying you would rather have Mangini than Fisher as your HC? Oh, and Mangina is never one I used. That belongs to someone else. I don't think Manfuckhead is mine either but I am sure Manshithead is. Manmoron, Manuseless...those come to mind. Manidiot too. All because some fools decided to coin Mangenius a few years ago.
They were outcoached for sure, but Coles saying it was hard to get him the ball is a total cop-out because Dre Bly is not the same player he was in Detriot.
yeah woody is a cheap son of a bitch. i cant believe he didnt spend any money in free agency this year. what a cheapskate.
Now that I read it, I find it appalling. Obviously, Jets have it right in their mind, where Broncos are not supposed to focus on one player. So what do you do when Broncos actually DO focus on one player? Use him as a decoy! Dre Bly was on Coles all day - right? So if Coles run his route, Dre Bly followed, right? Now, did you think about what could happen if Coles ran into another defender? Does Bly release Coles all of a sudden, and look for the nearest player around? (That's called stupidity.) True, you may not know the intention of Broncos defense till the end of the game for certain, but then what's the point of adjustments? This sort of things drive me nuts. Jets are so hellbent on staying on course when the game plan is out, and there is no such thing as adjustment. If you didn't see that last weekend, watch the Raiders game again. Time and again, Raiders D were determined to take the passing attack away - and instead of attacking the aggressive blitzes with bubble screens and rushing plays, Jets kept doing what it had set out to do - and lost. If the coaches cannot learn to adjust to the defense, maybe this team doesn't deserve to go any further as well.
You said he was bottom 5 so he named 6 off the top of his head. Turner and Phillips had a shit load more talent than the Jets had last season. He made the playoffs the year before with less talent than either of those teams had last year. Fischer was completely out coached. Did you recognize the gameplan we had for that game and how Fischer failed to adjust to it until it was too late? I already know the answer to this but I figured I'd humor myself with your response. You are a witty one aren't you?
I don't think I've ever read a more assinine statement, EVER, on any message board. That's saying something considering all the other idiotic posts you've made over the years. Yep, Mangini was outcoached en route to a blowout win of the previously undefeated Titans And I thought champ was clueless. Congratulations for taking the title from him.
I don't think you believe the shit you write... I really don't. How is 06 explained? When he took that team to the playoffs. You said "probably" to Fisher outcoaching him, which means you don't believe what you wrote. "There were no obvious coaching mistakes" .... well shit, if Mangini didn't make any mistakes, then he did a damn good job didn't he? You're an easy target for correction.
seriously grow a pair. we control our own destiny as far as the playoffs go. it doesn't get much more comfortable than that in the nfl. only a handful of teams run away with division championships.
You have to be the most intellectually dishonest poster on this message board. Everything you wrote here is either verifiably false or something you'd have to be a moron to believe. By the way, before I continue, I specifically said that I could name MORE than the 6 I decided to include but I just wanted to give you the bottom 5 or so in the league. Apparently, you didn't understand me when I wrote that. Now, as for your ridiculous claim that Norv Turner and Wade Phillips are better coaches than Mangini because they had better seasons last year with their respective teams than Mangini had with his team. Obviously, you can't compare coaches in a vacuum (although, I'm not sure if ANYTHING is obvious to you), without considering something we like to call the TALENT of the players being coached!!!!!!!!!! Those two guys have routinely underachieved with exremely talented rosters. Wade Phillips had the second most talented roster in the league last year and couldn't win a playoff game. Wade Phillips has never won a playoff game and has coached in at least three of them that I can recall. Norv Turner is going to miss the playoffs this year with one of the most talented rosters in the league. The Jets' roster last year was shit. We had two starting offensive lineman who certainly aren't starting for anyone and might not be in the league right now. We had the smallest nose tackle in the sport. We had no real fullback. We had no real Pass-rushers for a 3-4 defense. We were crap. And what happened to 2006??? When Mangini took an even LESS talented roster and lead his team to a 10-6 record and a playoff berth that NO ONE could have asked for. I guess that season doesn't count. And Fisher "probably" outcoached Mangini? Isn't this just another way of saying: "Even I, the master of pulling unsubstantiated bullshit out of my ass, can't think of an argument for why Fisher outcoached Mangini. But I really hate Mangini and can't admit that he may have outcoached one of the best coaches in the leauge, so I'm going to use a word that creates doubt and hope that no one calls me out on another obviously intellectually dishonest response"?????? And oh yeah, I have definately seen you use Manfuckhead before. Manfuckhead is one you used very recently because I remember noting to myself how stupid I thought it was and how silly I thought it made you look.
So do the Phins. They win out and they're looking at a division title. Things are tighter then people want to admit.
To be fair to Don, he's said so many stupid things throughout the years, how can you be sure this was what made you think he was being silly? :wink:
My point was that his purpose for saying he was outcoached was silly. Point to other things as you did and make a better argument. To say he was out coached because they didn't anticipate the Broncos covering Coles so tight was not a good argument.
