For 15 years, we've been hiring defensive coordinators and nothing else. It's gotten us nowhere. I KNOW that defense wins championships. But the problem is, the defensive coordinators don't know how to coach the rest of the team! Also, in most cases, they prove that they were only good defensive coaches when they were under good head coaches! Mangini, Rex, and now Bowles, show that they can do a decent job on defense when they have the right personnel for their style of coaching. But if they don't, they try to force a square peg into a round hole and end up with players playing WAY outside their positions, leading to slow, weak defenses. That's not the mark of a good coach; that's the mark of a guy who's read a lot of books about being a coach, but doesn't learn from anything else, including his own experience. A good coach needs to create a defense that will get the most out of what he has. Case and point: Bill Parcells liked to run 3-4 defenses, but he'd spend entire seasons in 4-3 if the defensive team was more suited for that formation. If this team is to have a fighting chance, they need, not should possibly have, they absolutely NEED a guy who can develop quarterbacks. THAT AND THAT ALONE is the key to winning in the modern NFL. The days of forging dynasties with running backs and defensive lines making up for otherwise forgettable "game manager" quarterbacks ended in the 1980s. Bad offensive play will completely cancel good defense. Good offense can often cancel bad defense. Bowles is already showing he's not the right guy for this job. He's too conservative and shows no clock management skills. I hate to do one and done, but I see nothing but trouble ahead unless we can get a coach who knows quarterbacks, and Bowles clearly is not that guy.
Bowles isn't calling the offensive plays. Gailey is working with a broken Fitz, hi s limitations are apparent. No coach is going to fix the fact that we don't have dick at QB, we haven't had dick at QB, and nothing will change until we get a flippin QB. This fanbase has got to stop pointing the finger at shit that doesn't matter because the obvious isn't there, we need a legit starting caliber QB under center. Until that happens, it doesn't matter what we do. Period.
Their backup QB didn't throw an INT. Their backup QB had a couple TDs. Their backup QB burnt Revis multiple times In that game. Their backup QB had two perfectly healthy hands. Their backup QB had all day in the pocket. Listen I get it. I know what your saying, without a doubt, but the coaches coach the players, if the players don't do their job, we don't win. So threads like this are stupid to me. How many drops has Marshall had the past four games we've lost? How shitty has our run blocking and pass blocking become since Mangold and Colon have been unable to stay on the field? How much have those injuries impacted what we do in the run game? How predictable has Fitz become since his hand injury? How many times are we going to see this team crawl all the way back in these games but not pull out the win due to poor execution? How many drops do we have to see before we realize these players are dropping the ball, literally and figuratively? Why is our Dline not using proper technique go pass rush? Why don't we see these players being ultra aggressive on defense with the ball? The only guys I see trying to strip the ball on a consistent basis is Harris and Revis. That is it. We've spent 150 million towards rebuilding our secondary and ironically its the lower played safeties that are playing like they want to win, not our high priced CB's. How many times do we have to watch Davis get caught looking in the backfield just to get burnt by a running back on a wheel route? How is it even possible that Devin Smith has had such a negative impact on this team the way he has? Mind blown. When you have all of these issues, the only thing I think about is, a great QB can hide a lot of those things based on performance at that position alone. We don't have a good enough QB to mask all these other issues, so blaming TB for players sucking all over the place is lame to me. That's all.
Gailey compounds it by calling plays in big spots that go to like the fifth receiver (Kellen Davis against Buffalo, Devin Smith yesterday). When the game's on the line the ball MUST go to Marshall or Decker. When the Steelers had a 4th and game on the line from the one yard line against the Chargers earlier this season did they throw to Markus Wheaton? No they told Bell to make a play and he did....what a novelty putting the ball in the hands of your best player with the game on the line. And the QB woes have nothing to do with a VASTLY underachieving defense either.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Looking forward to when we shit can Bowles in 2019 and replace him with a another defensive coordinator with zero HC experience.
Amazing how more than half of this fan base obsesses over the QB position. Agreed, that we don't have Joe Montana, but there are far bigger problems. The OL SUCKS, it doesn't matter who is back there throwing when there are guys in the QBs face and feet. The best O-Lineman on the team didn't even play past the first possession of the game, and that was all she wrote. Face facts, this OL is put together with sticks and rubber bands right now, and its the achilles heel of the offense. They can't block to run effectively, and if they can't run they sure as hell can't pass, and that's the end of story. Unless Gailey is going to trot out the Lonesome Polecat and hope for the best, there isn't going to be any dramatic changes this season in offensive production.
Has nothing to do with offense or defense. Redskins got Gruden, look how that worked out for them. Their offense stinks, defense improved. Under Shanahan it was the opposite. Falcons are doing fine on offense despite hiring a defense guy in Quinn. Look at Belichick and the Pats. List goes on and on. At the end of the day you have to have the right players and the right game plan / playcalling / scheme, you have to be prepared and not make dumb mistakes. We have the right players but that's about it.
Its why it made little sense to can Rex and replace him with basically the same mindset , minus the quotes the media can get from him. And Bowles hasnt proved to be anywhere close the type of defensive coach that Rex is. I cant count how many times Ive heard that "Rex is the head coach, he should care about more than the defense!"..well now Bowles is here and he doesnt seem to worry about the offense at all , but seems to be getting a pass. So its pointless. Bowles has all the talent in the world for this defense to be elite. On paper its better than 2009 even if Revis isnt the Revis of old. And he also has better offensive pieces than Rex has ever had. He's crashing the Mercedes on a weekly basis with his inability to come up with a decent gameplan. The fact that we're tied in the standings with teams like Buffalo, Houston and Indy is a joke and should fall directly on him.
We need Chip Kelly!!!! He's an OFFENSIVE MINDED COACH and he's just so innovative! His offense is unstoppable....if we had him he'd turn Fitzpatrick into Brady just like he turned Bradford and Sanchez into WINNERS!!
Try looking at the recent drafts...they were terrible and we are paying the price. This team has many holes that Mac tried to fill... There are still players that need to go form the last regime... your seeing that now.
Chip Kelly is just the opposite extreme from Rex Ryan: A guy who knows offense but doesn't give a shit about defense. He's also, like the last three Jet coaches, a stubborn lout who insists on playing HIS game regardless of whether or not he has the right guys for the job.
You are what your record says you are I don't care if Woody starts coaching but the torture has to end..maybe he teaches Bowles the Johnson Wax Playbook (slide Ryan SLIDE......ahhh smooth as glass)
Offensive coaches are no better than defensive coaches. We need a head coach who can handle both sides of the ball. There is no substitute. No co-ordinator is going to help here. If a coach doesn't evolve to handle the other sides of the ball when he is elevated from a co-ordinator role, he is destined to go back to being a co-ordinator.
It's way more then just a... QB Coach Coordinator Special Teams Its a team game and the whole year is being compounded by injuries mainly MANGOLD and PRYOR. One thing i have to point out is that every time in the last decade Mangold has gone out this team could never get going on offense. I swear to fucking god if we don't attempt to upgrade and solidify this offensive line with more youth and a higher ceiling were gonna have more rough years to come.( Yea LT is nothing special either hasn't been for years ) How herky jerky this board is after every play ...not even lose is sad. World ends on every hitch route here. Guys the Jets were never gonna be the team that shocked the league this year be a realist and try to enjoy the ride. You have to give Mac and Bowles more time then 10 games. Holy shit lets just rotate coaches and gm's every year then success would come!
