Can we get rid of Tannenbaum and keep Rex

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  1. fozzi58

    fozzi58 Well-Known Member

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    I think we should clean house. Fire the entire FO and start over.

    Nothing like rebuilding the Jets with false hopes and promises every 4 ~ 6 years. This way we can do it again in 4~6 years. We will always have the excitement of cleaning house every half decade.

    Thank goodness for our instability.

    Next up? Bill Polian and Bill Cowher. Can't wait to see how Jets fans run them out of town in 2018. hahaha!
     
  2. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Rex doesn't draft anybody, Tannenbaum does.
     
  3. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    While I am still not ready to say get rid of Ryan, you make some good points. The last one, though, you perhaps did not push far enough. The inherent problem is that Woody meddles in roster decisions but does not have the knowledge and ability to do so.

    I don't see a real football guy taking the Jet GM position unless Woody agrees not to meddle, or even better sells the team.
     
  4. soxxx

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    They are both in the war room right?
     
  5. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    I agree. Even if he never had another say in talent evaluation, the John Connor pick is enough for me to know hes an asshole. He LOVED Kyle Wwilson. Coples is his guy also...that one is yet to be seen.
     
  6. sackexchange

    sackexchange Well-Known Member

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    I am 100% in favor of firing Tanny. I am 50/50 on Rex and don't feel passionately either way. Most of the reason for that is that I don't know who is out there as a replacement that I would be excited about.

    One guy that I thought we should have looked at after Mangini was Brian Billick. I think he is just the type of no-nonsense prick that this team needs.
     
  7. kevmvp

    kevmvp Well-Known Member

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    Agreed

    Problem is a new GM might want to bring in a different guy to be his HC. I hate bringing in people to run something and forcing them into having to make it work with guys they might not want. It really wouldnt be fair to the new GM if that were the case.

    With that said though I love Rex and believe he should be here as our HC.
     
  8. kevmvp

    kevmvp Well-Known Member

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    He was an offensive minded HC who won with defense. Thats something that would throw up a red flag for me if I were looking to hire him. He had very little to no success offensively in Baltimore and that was his specialty.
     
  9. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Rex presser was supposed to have started 15 minutes ago and nobody has shown up..maybe they fired everybody.
     
  10. ouchy

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    SO Tanny is the new Shotty?

    Looks like Sparano is getting off easy.

    Tanny is not even on the field?
     
  11. CJLang

    CJLang Well-Known Member

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    Rex still needs to keep this unit together. If they collapse (I don't mean lose games) it will show he has lost the team.

    They need to get back to competing.

    The tough part is that Rex has been the players best friend through 3 years. Are the gonna step up and fight for him out of loyalty? Or is he gonna have to get tough? And if he does try to get tough, will they respect or respond to it?

    I think the GM goes after this year no matter what, but Rex is gonna have to show that he can steer his ship if he wants to come back.

    Also, Sporano was Rex's choice, and where is that super creative play calling that they kept under wraps all pre-season?
     
  12. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    Separate yourself from Rex's charm.

    Why do you love him?

    He doesn't do anything particularly well as a head coach.

    The guise of his likeability through his honesty with the media and charm has faded from me.

    His preparation is sloppy, the team does not play fluidly, every play seems to happen with maximum strain and difficulty because the players seem confused. His in game adjustments are absent, or if they are there, they are poor and don't work. Where is the mad scientist defensive schemes? Where is the crazy defensive play where the kicker blitzes from the corner back spot? This has all been absent for 2 seasons.

    Being likeable doesn't cut it for me. Wins do, I'd rather have Harbaugh (SF) the asshole, who wins, than a coach who I 'like' who is good for 2-3 embarassing unexplainable losses each season because he couldn't get his team up.

    This league is an offensive league now with the passing rules favoring receivers. With a head coach who self proclaims offense isn't his thing, he needs someone who can guide him.

    Furthermore, the running game, which is Rex's M.O., is dogshit on both ends of the ball right now.

    I hold him accountable, no more passes.
     
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  13. Red Menace

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    That's Funny...:up::rofl:
     
  14. kevmvp

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    I like Rex because he has won here though. It's not because of his charm. I could care less about his press conferences and bravado. The guy is 30-22 in just a little over 3 seasons here with 2 playoff seasons under his belt a 4-2 record in the playoffs with all 4 wins coming on the road, and has built a top tier defense here (maybe not this year but we'll see). The point is the guy doesnt deserve to be fired after one potentially bad year in my opinion.

    Harbaugh (SF), the guy you mentioned you'd rather have instead of Rex wins with the same philosophy Rex does. A big time defense and a great rushing attack. His team is executing this year and Rex's team isnt. He should it least get next year to see if he can turn things around.

    But with that said as much as i would love to see Rex here long term if Tanny did end up getting fired I would let the new GM decide who he wants to be his HC whether it would be keeping Rex or bringing in someone new.
     
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  15. Banjo

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    I am also willing to give Rex another chance. Tanny's the problem. We need to start drafting skill players ASAP. The offense looks like the worst in the NFL
     
  16. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    Ken these are valid points.

    But I'm sorry to bring this into the conversation again, by the standards Rex set forth for himself, winning a Super Bowl (or even getting there) he has fallen short.

    Also, the tools that Rex had which lead to his success are no longer around or are a shell of their former selves and he may never get those tools back.

    He and the FO mis-judge talent they drafted to their detriment -- to the point where we are now.

    The defense gets tired because the offense can't keep them off the field. But the defense also gets tired because there is no rotational depth to spell them.

    After the 2009 run they drafted "luxury" picks to groom into starters instead of drafting players who could have an immediate impact in terms of positive productivity the same year they were drafted.

    That was negligently arrogant and these people should be held accountable.
     
  17. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    You mean a reputable football guy like Mike Holmgren?
     
  18. CJLang

    CJLang Well-Known Member

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    More like someone who has built great teams like Bill Polian and his son.
     
  19. Will-I-Am-Not

    Will-I-Am-Not Well-Known Member

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    Rex is not a great head coach. He's a very good defensive coordinator.


     
  20. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Guys like Bill Polian aren't just available for the picking. He's 127 years old, I highly doubt he's going to take on any GM jobs. Typically you need to promote someone to GM and you don't have your pick of experienced guys.

    Anyway, the point is that if a new GM were to come in it's not out of the question that he could retain Rex, especially if he believes talent is the major issue.
     

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