He doesn't hate the position, you guys are putting this position on the pedestal. He has a lesser priority on the position compared to the majority of the people on this board. I don't value the CB position as much as you guys as well. I would rather have a stout Front 7 with a play-making safety, then All-Pros at the CB position.
Apples and oranges. We are talking about the Jets. Not those teams. To take one of your examples, Nick Foles arguably had the best year stat wise of any Qb in the league last year. We can be reasonably sure we will not be saying the same thing looking back at this season at Geno Smith. Philip Rivers had a great year for SD as well, and although Alex Smith is argued about much here, he is a better Qb as well. Apples and oranges. The irony for the Jets is that their putrid corners will increase the pressure on Smith to perform, which is exactlly not where the Jets want to be.
And ftr while I am leery of appeals to authority as a method of argument, I am hardly the only person who feels the Jets are risking their season by fielding too weak corners. Look around at pretty much any assessment of the team and you will see CB mentioned as the biggest weakness.
Chiefs were good because they kept generating TOs (along with a great run game). They had an absurd amount of TOs in the first 10 games. Alex Smith, a stop-gap helped but that defense early in the year was amazing. Also, Jamaal Charles was the offense.
When's the last time you saw Dick LeBeau with an all-pro CB? He's easily one of the best defensive minds ever to coach. You could argue he's better than Rex / Belichick. LeBeau loves a front 7 with a play-making safety.
It's not apples and oranges. It's fruit salad. Nobody knows what the effect of a subpar pass defense will be on the Jets season at this point. Last year the Jets gave up 300+ yards passing 4 times and they won 2 of those games. With all the crappy pass defense they played all season they gave up 383 yards passing to Tom Brady - in 2 games... To call the Jets season over because they're not going to be a good pass defense is premature to say the least.
In regards to the bolded, again - Milliner had an injury history in college and was hurt in camp last year too. Patterson bounced around 7 teams in 10 years for a reason. And McDougle had the biggest injury red flag of all. These weren't exactly things that came out of left field, other than Patterson going nuts but even if he didn't it's not exactly you're talking about an elite talent. As far as Milliner/McDougle, you aren't talking about Curtis Martin-types that you don't expect to get hurt.
We're going to be the biggest test of that meme. Especially the first seven weeks of the season lining up against Rodgers, Cutler, Stafford, Rivers, Peyton and Brady.
Well let's not get too much into semantics. I said virtually assured not to make the playoffs. That is in large part because even with solid corners there are other question marks, but yes, I do think the lack of talent at cb is the biggest roadblock to a successful season. Still perhaps I should have used some less strong term than virtually assured which, ftr, is not quite the same as saying the season is over. I will say that much will have to break the way of the team for them to overcome the lack of talent at Cb, so much so that it is unlikely that will occur. but is it impossible? Of course not. Still, putting the argument on the other side, do you think the status of the Cb roster actually HELPS the Jets playoff prospects?
I said go back and read the post because I quoted a different poster so it's pretty evident I wasn't referring to you. I'll just assume that you did not go back to read it and that you do not have some reading comprehension problem or post by 2 different names.
Using those teams' pass defense rankings to support you argument is very misleading. Those are all teams that had good offenses that, w/o being privy to the applicable stats right now, scored a lot more ppg than we did. Being that passing defense is ranked based on yards given up, isn't it likely opposing teams racked up a lot of yards on 4 teams referenced above while trailing? We were near the bottom in terms of ppg and point didifferential. Our yards given up were probably all real with little to no garbage time prevent defense fake yards given up.
Its possible but I doubt it,He gave Rex an extension ,I know the extension doesn't mean shit but he didn't have to do it.He could have fired Rex last year if he wanted to .I just don't think Idzik is this great GM people on here act like he is.He has proven that he is good with the cap but he hasn't proven that he can put together a full solid roster just yet
It's not misleading at all. Good pass defenses don't give up a ton of yards even in garbage time. The Seahawks, Saints, Bengals and 49ers were all top 10 pass defenses and also in the top 10 scoring offenses. The teams that were at the bottom of the NFL in pass defense last year and also made the playoffs did that despite being at the bottom of the NFL in pass defense. It wasn't some weird cause and effect caused by their scoring prowess. It was because their offenses allowed them to compete despite having a bad pass defense. For all the mistakes Geno Smith made he had 3,046 yards passing last year as a rookie and averaged 6.88 yards per attempt. He probably lost 400 or 500 yards off his season total due to the 25 drives that were cut short by his turnovers. He got totally shut down for a quarter of the season by a combination of his own confidence issues and Rex's decision to take the ball out of his hands. That was worth another 400 yards or so and it didn't prevent him from making mistakes. The odds are pretty good that Geno throws for 4,000 yards this year. Even if the Jets ground and pound some against the tougher pass defenses he's very likely to improve his output by the 33% necessary to get there. This assuming he controls the turnovers which were the reason he got shutdown last year.
The great thing about Rex, he can adjust. He will need to prove that this season or he maybe gone. We have competent corners. The depth isn't great and we should be a little worried, but we can make the playoffs with lesser talent at CB.
