Please be just a little realistic. The Jets are not playing with monopoly money and this is not baseball. There is a thing called a salary cap. The Jets have some players of their own to sign down the road. Plus, there are a ton of teams with plenty of cap space and Faneca and Samuel are two of the top 4 or 5 players available. This will drive their prices way way up. Be happy if the Jets sign Faneca or Bell for the OL and draft Gholston for the defense. If Vilma is traded, it will likely be for a draft pick. I think a Samuel signing would be a huge waste of money. He will be the most expensive free agent on the market (it'll take $100 million and more than $20 million in a signing bonus) and it is not an area of need with Revis, Miller, Barrett, Poteat, and Coleman . The Jets should save their money for where it is needed because they are going to have to blow Faneca out of the water to get him ($20 million in bonus money). The scenario you are stating would cost hundreds of millions over the next few years and would put the Jets into cap hell.
I'm telling you guys -- before you start paying OLBs $10MM / year, look at Marcus Howard. Pay Faneca. Sign Bell (the OG). Draft Gholston. Draft Nicks. Draft Howard.
You're a Jets fan, be negative aka "realistic." :wink: That'd be a pretty versatile linebackers corps actually, and if we draft Gholston that gives us 4 pass rushers in our LB corps (Harris included). And if Rogers is actually acquired for Vilma, then we have just added a pretty good player to a DL that needs one. We should be in a position to draft a good DL prospect in round or even 3 also. Draft one of the big RT's in the draft or even sign Kevin Sampson away from the Chiefs, though I know this will piss people off because they've never heard his name before and he's only started 6 games.
Oh, absolutely. I'm just saying if somehow we pull off getting Pace and Gholston, that would be a rotation of 4 guys at OLB who at some point in their career have shown the ability to get to the passer on a consistent basis (Thomas, Pace, Bowens, and Gholston), as well as an ILB who can do the same in Harris. Now that's the kind of depth I'd like to see.
yeah, i think the thing to remember here is depth. when assembling a championship caliber team, you need depth on both sides of the ball -- in this case, the Defense. Pace isn't old, but at 28 he's not exactly young either. you always have to assume injury. if we sign Pace, and at #6, Gholston is there as the best available player, we should take him anyway. aside from the potential-injury argument, Gholston coming here initially as depth is a good move because needs to be coached up, and this would allow him to gradually adjust to the NFL. adding Rogers (possibly in the trade), Pace, and Gholston, gives this Front 7 both talent and depth. it'd be a vast improvement.
Pace and BT would start, Gholston would be in on pass rushing packages where you just let him loose. BT back on the weak side makes him return to the talent he was in 06... Those 3 could equal our sack total from last year if positioned correctly.
So is he primarily a strong-side OLB in a 3-4? Both of our OLBs were terrible last year. If we sign Pace, I doubt we draft Golston - they will SOLB Pace, WOLB Bryan Thomas and take either Ellis or McFadden.
The Dolphins are expected to offer Calvin Pace a deal similar to the one Adalius Thomas and Joey Porter commanded last off-season. The acquisition of Pace would almost certainly shift the Dolphins into more of a permanent 3-4 defense, as Pace struggled in 4-3 schemes for his first four years in the NFL. Source: foxsports.com Pace? The money that Porter and or Adalius got last season? Wow.
John Clayton was reporting this morning that the Jets were targetting Lance Briggs, I never saw him say anything about Pace. Of course this was on ESPN News so of course there is no link.
Would we play Briggs at ILB? He's about the same size as Harris (6-2 240 vs. 6-2 243). He's way undersized at OLB at 240 lbs.
I saw that too. I don't really see us going after Briggs though. Not if we're going to spend the cash on Faneca.
Don't kill the messenger, I'm just reporting what I saw on TV. Clayton said Briggs was going to be pursued by the Jets, 49ers and a another team I am blanking on. I don't he's a fit and Clayton has been wrong before but apparently he's heard the Jets are interested.
