Funny, they spent all that time collecting his stats and failed to notice what team he plays for... Calvin Pace, ARI: 14*
maybe you should watch the game over again...and answer some of your own questions.....but this time...watch it sober...so you can get a concrete idea of what the gameplan is. I've watched the games....I've watched the plays the coordinators are trying to execute....it's not effective in my IMO. What else do you want me to tell you? I only know what i've seen...not just yesterday...but over the past few weeks.....and it's terrible. 9-5 or not. We're not playing like a 9-5 team. Look at how the other playoff-ready teams are playing....look how the Pats played the Oakland Raiders.....wow, we lost to the Raiders in Cable's first game as a HC....he's had a few weeks under his belt now, the Raiders should be a tad better..but they weren't....and the Pats still raped them a new one. Why couldn't we do that?...I'll say the same about the Broncos too....the Pats beat them up....and we crumbled like a fuckin' chips ahoy cookie...in our own yard to boot......still want to call "bullshit" on my feelings towards that game plan? I want the Jets to win...but i'm not proud of yesterday's win....we let a team back in the game when they had no business being there in the first place...hell, they LET US back in the game....
68 tackles 7 sacks 4 forced fumbles 4 fumbles recovered 3 pass defended This guy is having a bad year? I know that stats don't tell the whole story, but you also cannot completely ignore them either. He has been apart of some very important plays in crucial points of games. You people on the darkside have been heckling all week saying how you guys know the game and "evaluate" plays unlike the people who are optimistic because we "just look at stats and scores and don't evaluate the whole game." All I am getting out of this thread is someone is bitching about Pace being not productive because it hasn't been brought up yet. You can say those 2 sacks were easy or "gimmies" with authority, but that doesn't make it true (see Sean Salisbury). Who's next Revis?
Or I could keep asking the guy who knows what the gameplan is, as you so clearly do. Explain it to me. Break it down. Then I can take your whining seriously. I Something with substance beyond "everything is going wrong." BTW: What in the fuck should a 9-5 team play like? The Colts are 10-4...they didn't close out the Lions until the mid/late 4th quarter yesterday...are they being run poorly too? Or could it be that this is the fucking NFL? The fact that you're still bitching about the Raiders game is supposed to make me take you seriously? Since the Raiders gave we've went 6-2 and beaten the Patriots and an undefeated Titans team. So you can shut the fuck up about the Raiders beating us. The Rams beat the Cowboys, are the Cowboys a shitty team? You put no fucking perspective on your views...and THATS why I can't take this shit serious. So that you can find ways they almost lost? If we went to the Super Bowl and it went exactly like yesterdsay game, would you bitch? Doesn't make it a loss. So "care" comes to mind. Uh huh....by letting our D get sacks, force fumbles, and score TDs? Or by letting us score on the first two drives? Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuullllllllllllllllllllshiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
"maybe you should watch the game over again...and answer some of your own questions.....but this time...watch it sober...so you can get a concrete idea of what the gameplan is." You gotta be kidding me with this one... you darksiders have a lot of balls to say the least. When I stated my opinion on a darksider thread I was hit with the same useless reply of "I watch and understand the game, something you can't do," or "watch the game sober next time and you'll see what I do." If that is how you are going to validate your argument, with petty insults about people you most likely have never met, I feel sorry for you. I feel sorry for the fact that you aren't able to have mature progressive discussions with other Jet fans about the team.
Yeah..but they closed them out...there's the difference. We didn't close out the game yesterday...we received a gift from Jesus. If you think we "closed out" the Bills, then you aren't too bright. i wasn't bitching about the Raiders game..i used that game as an example of how futile our team played in....it is what it is. I guess you're proud of that one too, though. Good on you. The Cowboys are a shitty team minus Tony Romo...so you can shut the fuck up about that. FAIL again. I have no perspective? I've haven't said anything that wasn't the truth. But thanks for coming out again....fail #3. if we went to the Super Bowl??...bwahahahahaha...dude, defenses that play like we do, don't make it to the super bowl...fail #4. yep..you're defenitly spewin it.
"if we went to the Super Bowl??...bwahahahahaha...dude, defenses that play like we do, don't make it to the super bowl...fail #4." Ever heard of a hypothetical question? Or are you too busy breaking down the game plans and their weaknesses to explain to all us ignants?
yet another useless thread bashing an opinion with no facts of figures. Actually you're right, I'm commenting from Imaginationland a guy who called himself the mayor picked me up on his hot air balloon a couple hours ago. Now the evil imaginative creatures are plotting to take over the Gum Drop Forest. Back to the thread, I can't see how Pace can be brought up as a weakness with the numbers he has put up, and the times you hear his name on gameday during a crucial situation
I can't explain anything to an "ignant".....is that another word for "dwarf" or "hobbit"? Sorry, i speak English.
So...we didn't win yesterday? 1. Your english sucks here. 2. So you're cool with bringing up 8 games ago just because you think it supports whatever point you think you're making? The fact that we're 6-2 since then means nothing. And I'm the one not too bright. Makes sense. Uh huh. But we are a shitty team? What were you arguing again? You haven't said anything that was the truth either...if it was you'd have more to back it up than "I'm not proud of our win yesterday" and "we lost to the Raiders." Are you 6 years old or just retarded? You live in some world where an almost loss is a big deal...but you have trouble answering hypothetical questions? Actually, you seem to have trouble with any question at all, since I've yet to receive one clear answer for the many I've asked you. Uh huh. And Calvin Pace sucks.
Apparently you speak English... but you're not very good at understanding it. Slang counts as English too you know. Ignant=Ignorant.
Not the way you said we did...you used the Colts as a comparison. Two different wins....we didn't close out the game....they did in the 4th quarter, Lions or not, they closed it out. 1. Forgive me, i'm trying to dumb myself down to your level... 2. How we're playing now worries me...not 6 games ago. The team that beat the titans wasn't the same team on the field yesterday...sorry to ruin your day, but that's the truth. I used our game with the Raiders as a measuring stick...comparing our game to how the Pats played them yesterday (with less starters to boot)...and it was night and day. I think that's a concern...but according to you...our gameplan isn't flawed. we're not a shitty team...we're a horribly coached team...especially on the defensive side of the ball. But a win is a win right? Guess what...Jesus won't always be there to put us over the hump...like he did yesterday. i guess you and i have a difference of opinion on what the "truth" is.....we'll have to agree to disagree there.
The Bills had a dumb call on but the play had to be made. Elam made a great play followed by Ellis going after that ball hard and taking it in. It was not a gift it was a play maker making a play. I love my team I enjoy following them. If they have a stinker I'm not embarrased and if they play great I'm not proud. How the Jets play isn't a reflection on me personally. They are the team I root for playing a sport I love. The Cowboys are an outright loaded team on both sides of the ball and are a legit SB contender. We should have the Cowboys talent minus Romo. The fact that you are embarrased or have pride in the teams performance shows a total lack of perspective. Dude the Colts team that won the SB a couple of years ago couldn't stop a rolling truck going up hill 2 miles an hour before the playoffs started. Why not its football talk on a Monday after game day. I almost forgot, Pace is one of the best players on this team. He's not the problem and if this team is going to do any damage in the playoffs he is going to be a big reason why.
You're telling me it doesn't? So if someone uses "word" to express approval or an affirmative response (word up), you look at them with a stare of complete confusion because you only know English... not slang which is a different language all together in your eyes. I am not saying I am an English major, but you seem to believe you have the credentials to deem dictionaries incorrect.. This convo is so dumb and I somehow fell into it... damn...
The Jets are very inconsistent this year, we can all agree on that. We went through a 3 week period in the beginning of the season where we looked terrible and out of sync. A big pick 6 from A. Elam against the Bills in week 9 turned our season around and we went from 4-3 to 8-3. During that winning streak, we put all the bad things behind us and started playing like a SUPER BOWL team and WON games that mattered. The media got to our players, talking about a Jets/Giants Super Bowl with 5 games left in the season. The last 3 games we played awful and looked out of sync, and Abram Elam came through with a SEASON changing play against Buffalo. This Jets team got another chance to save our season and a huge wake up call. i'm not saying that we are a lock for the SB or even the playoffs at that, but this team has proved time and time again that it CAN be a great football team. i really think the last 3 weeks will help this team grow. We are very lucky that we found a way to win. This team showed a lot of emotion at the end of the game (look at the pictures someone posted). Let's hope they can get their shit together like they did after the last Bills game
you fell into it? JLFDware and I were having a discussion...and you stuck your retarded nose into it....so you have nobody but yourself to blame. credentials??..hahahaha...keep makin' shit up, doofus. It suits you. Word.
Lol. Tf does this even mean? WTF kind of bullshit double standard is that? The Colts are allowed to be neck to neck with a team threatening to go 0-16 into the 4th quarter, but the Jets can't have a close game with a division rival that opened the season 5-0? What fucking reality do you live in? Seriously. That sucks, cause I'm asking you to get smart. And please don't act like you've dumbed down for this convo. You started a Calvin Pace sucks thread...you were plenty dumb to start with. :lol: You don't even know what the gameplan is. You're just fucking buzzwording me to death. Say something with substance or STFU. Thats really all I'm asking. To think that we can be 9-5, tied for first in the AFC East, AND a top 3 scoring team in the league all with shitty coaching...you have some legit points going here...:rofl2: I haven't said shit about a truth beyond that you seem to be the only one that knows it. Why do you think I've been asking you so many questions? Still awaiting one answer.