McCoy's playcalling was the biggest reason we saw the biggest Broncos choke ever last week against the Ravens. His bad playcalling was even more exposed when he had PFM as his QB! McCoy is a joke, but he is better than Schotty and Sparano. Oh and Tebow is still a below average NFL QB.
Tebow had a lot more than 12 Tds in 2011 ....he had 18, 12 passing , 6 Rushing ( if you count playoffs he had 21) not bad for the worst player that has ever lived and can not play in the NFL. Only 18 players in the NFL OF ANY TYPE QB, RB, TE , WR scored more TDs than Tebow did in 2011 and he only played in 11 games.
...and hasn't played since. Wonder why? The stat sheets say he's so damn good... must be cuz they don't like him. Can't be because his offenses spend almost the entire game GOING NOWHERE.
Ask yourself this and try an answer honestly. Did I say he was "sooo good." or did I say "Only 17 players in the NFL OF ANY TYPE QB, RB, TE , WR scored more TDs than Tebow did in 2011 and he only played in 11 games." which one did I say? keep the hyperbole up though, you cant stop that because what else are you going to say something reasonable like " not bad for 11 games but personally i think he still sucks "
Well... you keep digging up these stat sheets and finding these things that put him near the top or better than most. ...and yet he still looks like he's going to be homeless in the NFL. Could be conspiracy and hatred, and not liking the media... Or maybe those stats are an anomoly and none of it makes him a good QB. Scored more TDs than 17 players last year. = Nice job. Led the league in three and outs. = YOU SUCK!!! Had the best QB rating in the league during a certain 5 minute stretch. = Nice Job. Had the WORST QB rating in the rest of the OTHER 55 minutes. = YOU SUCK!!! Over 50% pass completion in the 4th quarter. = Nice Job. Low 30s through 3 quarters. = YOU SUCK!!! Led the league in rushing as a QB. = Nice Job. Finished DEAD last in almost every major passing stat, and finishing 25th in total offense. = YOU SUCK!! Win a playoff game completing only 10 of 21 on a 10 yard slant where the receiver torched the defense and went the distance on the other 70 yards of the 80 yard play. = Nice Shot!!! Crashing back to reality and looking like a Pee-wee Leaguer against the Patriots the following week. = YOU SUCK!!! Win streak on the element of surprise with the read-option. Good work. Losing to Kyle Orton 7 to 3 when the playoffs were in doubt. After losing the previous two when backing into the playoffs on the third tiebreaker agaist two other 8-8 teams. = YOU SUCK!!! See the pattern here? For every stat you did up thinking you have proven Tebow really isn't that bad, I can find a flipside stat that makes him look like some bum off the street. Nope. Cherry picked stats won't land him a starting gig. Put the pros and cons on the scale, the cons severely outweigh the pros. That is why he might be done in the NFL. Not because people on the internet don't like him much. Look at the WHOLE picture my friend, the guys paid millions to make those decisions sure as hell are. Gonna have to get Tebow off his ass to change that perception too, cut your stat sheets won't do it.
Please, keep Tebow as far away as possible from Mike McCoy. He is conservative personified with regards to his playcalling. Fox and McCoy made Tebow play with one arm tied behind his back just about every game all season long (and I'm not just talking about when they finally spread receivers wide and let him start flinging the ball in the 4th quarter). All the haters love to claim that they re-designed the offense to take advantage of Tebow's strengths, but that's nonsense, what they did was only a very, very small part of what Tebow ran at Florida. I'll be very surprised if Mike McCoy has any better luck in SD than Norv Turner did. He's not going to San Fran to be a back-up, either. If there was even a whisper of a chance that Tebow would be coming to San Fran, the heathen populace there would slit their wrists in angst that had nothing to do with football. I don't see Tebow going to Chicago to be Cutler's back-up just because Trestman got hired on there. I don't think he goes anywhere this season with the express understanding that he is a back-up and is not competing for the starting job, but especially not to Chicago.
Just read a rumor on a Bronco board that Philadelphia might become a possible destination with their new hire. Might even have a shot to start if Vick doesn't return. But man.... Philly fan is BRUTAL. You think Bronco and Jet fans were tough on him... just wait.
Oh man kill me now....I am going to have to pull a caldwell if that happens...."I can not imagine a scenario where I cheer for the eagles or any eagles player"
I don't know much about McCoy or his career. I thought he had some nice concepts and schemes last year with Denver (the Tebow year). I didn't watch Denver much this year, but I watched Carolina a lot when Fox was there. I'm not so sure you can write off McCoy because of anything in Denver. Fox is just super conservative. Maybe he picks coordinators with the same mindset, or maybe he holds them back. We'll see at any rate.
If it makes you happy I read an interview with Chip Kelly where he discussed whether his offense would work in the pros. He kind of said Tim Tebow wasn't an accurate enough passer to play in his offense. Whether that was a pre-emptive smokescreen or an honest opinion I don't know. Some of his Oregon qb's weren't very good passers and did just fine. The interview happened sometime in the last year. I read it a few weeks ago but didn't save a link.
This guy seems to disagree http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/stor...erbacks-philadelphia-ealges-target-chip-kelly need to be an insider to read the whole article. But he basically lists out all the potential QB options... including Vick, Alex Smith, Nick Foles (which all make since) then he continues to these gems... Joe Webb, Terrelle Pryor, Matt Flynn, and Dennis Dixon?? Then draft possibilities in Nick Florence, Tyler Wilson and EJ Manual... Not one mention of Tebow as an option Author goes on to say in the comments section "Just asked, and have heard it's not really an option being considered. Would have included if I thought it was." ugh
Well, most coaches and GMs don't like to talk about players still under contract with another team that aren't being shopped. While it looks like the Jets will part company, it isn't a sure bet. We just won't know until sometime in March. i'm kinda with TTTTebowand Jets too. It seems Tebow's name is being omitted from discussions on purpose. The Jacksonville GM made it a point to get the press to take that question off the table and he'd only been in the office for like 5 minutes.
But what is that purpose? Is it just a league wide determination that he's not worth it? The fact that those other qb's named would be considered before Tebow is telling. To say he wouldn't even be a decent fit as a backup in a system like Kelly's hard to believe. I'm convinced the media circus surrounding him (whoever's fault it is) is destroying his career. He's not going to be given the chance because no one wants the headache. And its an F'n shame if you ask me. I just want the dude to get a chance to develop. He's shown he's raw and has many issues, but its hard to deny some of the potential in the spots in which Tebow magic happened.
If a team is desperate to win,like Jax is,why would they sacrifice the chance to get a player that could help as you and others so think tebow can? Because he has a few fans? That would sell shit. There are others that are payed to evaluate a players worth,and they are far more capable than the people that are posting in this conversation. When will you finally be convinced that his qb ability will never be enough for him to play in the NFL? When will you stop trying to find every OTHER reason no one wants him? You still think a team should go all out a design an offense around him an possibly blow 3 or 4 years if it doesnt pan out? I'll be honest and say that if there was a presser tomorrow,and the Jets announced that they will be keeping Tebow and making him the starter,i would put my support behind it. it would be because because a group of professionals endorsed it. I realize that a few cool things happened with him in Denver,but imo it was a flash in the pan that had no chance of being a long term success.
CC, I think it's well past time that you might want to reevaluate what stats you really want to pin your "Tebow sucks" campaign on. Completion % - Out of 32 NFL teams, Andrew Luck ranked 37th in completion % (worse than even Blaine Gabbert and Mark Sanchez), leading the Colts to be the 18th best offense in the league this year. He had a completion % of 50% or less in almost half his games this year, including his last 5 games (4-1 W/L) of the regular season, 4 of which were in the 40's, and led his team to the play-offs. This is the same Andrew Luck who everyone says is the second coming of John Elway. That may or may not be true, but Luck wasn't nearly as bad in his first year as Elway was. If completion % is the be-all, end-all stat by which you judge a QB's worth, then how, exactly, did the Colts win 11 games and make it to the play-off's? Yes, they had a weak schedule, but still....the play-off's? With a QB who had one of the worst completion percentages in the league AND threw more INT's than almost any other QB in the league? Is it possible that his clutch abilities and his tendency to play his best when it was most important were more valuable than a cosmetic statistic like completion %? Colin Kaepernick hasn't exactly set the world on fire lately with his completion % either. He's in the low to mid 50's his last 4 games and....is 3-1 W/L, including manhandling defeats of the Patriots and the Packers. Of the 4 QB's starting in the NFL Division Championship games this weekend, 3 of them aren't even in the top 10 best completion % rankings this year, and 1 of them isn't even in the top 20! 3 and Out % - The 4 teams playing in the Division Championship Games this weekend have the following rankings in 3 and Out % this season: #1, #11, #14, #24. I'm trying to find meaning/correlation in those numbers, but having a pretty hard time. If you can do it, please let me know. Oh yeah, one more thing: Your "Denver went on a win streak for a time because of the element of surprise of the read option" theory was mildly absurd by about the 3rd game after Tebow became the starter. It was truly absurd by the 9th game when Denver gashed the Patriots for 252 rushing yards (including 93 from Tebow himself). And it is now monumentally absurd with Wilson, Kaepernick and RGIII running all over opposing defenses all season long, including this past weekend like crazy. There is gobs of film on the read option QB's now, and Kaepernick made the Packers defense look like a bunch of middle-schoolers last weekend.
"I can not imagine any scenario where Tim Tebow becomes a Jacksonville Jaguar...even if released" he seems like a cheery guy...
