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Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by GasedAndConfused, Jul 2, 2019.
Please tell me how 7-9 is relatively successful?
He allowed 3 sacks, 2 hits,8 pressures and committed 4 penalties in the 8 games he played. My point was you turning our discussion into a claim that my assessment of the current Browns equates to a proclamation that Mayfield the second coming of Christ..... Which is as accurate as your assessment of Harrison.
Watch week 17 and tell me again how good Harrison is.
The hype is what drives the league. We're Jets fans so we hype Darnold. The other fan bases laugh at us based on last season.
We hype Gase, the rest of the league laughs. Fucking Giants are hyping Jones as the savior.
It's ok to recognize talent on another team. I think I personally have become more distant from the Jets over time so I'm not as rabid and look at things more realistically. I have no problem pointing out the flaws as well as the positives. Don't know if it's age, constant disappointment but I don't praise medicority as excellence as many of the younger more hopeful members here. Not saying you, I'm recalling last year's posts critiquing every Mayfield throw as terrible and every Darnold pass as perfect, even the ones that were out of bounds, high,behind a Reciever. All the recievers fault.
Yes you wont find a more bias jets fan than me supported by my many posts on this forum Spare me.
I never suggested that you had a man crush on Mayfield You questioned my hatred & i provided rationale. What am i missing?
And yea i saw week 17 w Harrison..and guess what i still think hes talented.His main issue is fundamentals.But who the hell am i? I was mocked when i said Brick would be fine after the whole fan base called him a bust after 2 years. Same when i said it was idiotic to judge Adrain Jones based on 2 unplanned plays against dwight freeney in the preseason his rookie year..and AGAIN later on when i said he was a better fit at guard which he had to LEAVE NY to actually accomplish.Same w Brandon Moore being a starting level Guard despite being a UDFA. Who knows maybe its a few lucky hunches in a sea of Jets homerism..since thats my MO
Take care Tony..
Have a good night.
because last year was 4-12. That would be a 3 game improvement and for this team, that's an acomplishment!
sure......after the past 3 seasons, 7 wins will be an improvement, on paper no doubt, especially with our schedule which is very tough the first half. But the W-L record is not the most important thing in 2019.....the play of the QB, improvement of some players and the integration of the hi priced new players is most important. If all that comes together as the year goes on, severe injuries are avoided, and Gase doesn't totally melt down - then its a successful year despite what the ultimate W-L record is.
kurt you do know your lineman. that is true, I often value your opinion on offensive linemen
Guess you haven't heard, we actually hired a real GM. His name is Douglas.
Please don't respond with some nonsense about Gase being the real GM. I don't buy into those SOJF nonsense
Appreciate the kind words & the respect is mutual.
Im fine w someone disagreeing w me or thinking im clueless..who knows maybe i am..but im far from a homer..ive been bitching about the defense heavy drafts & lack of offensive talent for 10 years.
Nonetheless i have alot of respect for Tony & it’s all good
I generally try and force into my reality the way I think the Jets CAN be good. But truthfully, this year, I see a team that is going to be really good. I am extremely excited for this season. I think we're in for a ride.
It still sucks in football terms overall. We should be celebrating officially entering the ranks of mediocrity?
Mediocrity is an improvement over what we've seen these last several years. This team won 14 games over 3 years. We're starting from almost rock bottom so yeah, getting back to mediocre is showing improvement.
Not sure which take is more Darksider.
I can honestly say, I DON'T CARE. Wake me up when this team isn't a punchline anymore.
I wouldn't say sleeping. Every team every year has a bunch of players that say stuff like Mosley just did. People were sleeping on the Browns the years they went 1-15 and 0-16 too.
Darnold is expected to take that jump forward this year. And I think he will
But overall under Mac the rebuild was moving at a snails pace and he missed out on key additions (be it UFA or the draft...not being aggressive enough) far too often. Douglas still has to deal with some peculiar holes in the lineup that Mac let fester for too long. The lack of a true reliable center is unforgivable. Especially for a young QB. Still no reliable edge rusher. Still thin at CB. Still no true #1 receiver
After Anthony Barr scurried back to Minnesota Mac had no backup plan
This seems like we're in for a hard luck but very promising 8-8 season. And sure maybe if we get lucky we can appear ahead of schedule and slip into a Wild Card at 9-7, but I'm mentally preparing myself for that final growing pain season before this team is ready to take off for real and truly open up that window of opportunity to compete for a title in 2020
According to pff out skills positions is bottom 5 in the league and the bills and dolphins added much more talent
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OFFENSIVE. LINE. Darnold could be the second coming of Montana, Bell could be Jim Brown incarnate, without an offensive line it doesn’t matter. And it’s July, and THE. JETS. DONT. HAVE. AN. OFFENSIVE. LINE.
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All of our receivers are middle of the pack guys and Darnold is in year 2. Not very surprising to see this.
Theyre hardly bottom 5.
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They’re not that great to anyone other then Jets fans though.