Well if Burfict is available in the 8th rd, I would start to consider him. Forgetting about the fact that he ran slower then most OL and DTs, if his interviews have been as bad as they are saying the guy will be a very late round pick if at all. You guys saying if he is available in the 2nd rd you would consider it are out of your minds. This guy is basically undraftable at this point.
A slower Jonathon Vilma for a 4th rounder isnt a bad deal... considering we drafted Vilma 12th overall
Burfict is worth a 2nd round pick, he wont make it past the 3rd. I dont care what these small little reports say, I dont care he ran a bad 40 time (that means nothing for an ILB), he has all the ability in the world to become a great ILB. If he can do well in interviews and his pro day there is no reason why he shouldnt be drafted were I stated. He'd be a steal for the Jets.
I understand he has all the athletic ability to be a great ILB, he has a higher ceiling that David Harris who is our best front 7 player, but Im not sure if the mental aspect will allow him to reach that or even close to that. I really dont care what his 40 time is, because he plays a lot faster than that on tape, but it does indicate his preparation for it. I mean, if anyone with half a brain realized that putting up good numbers could affect ur future at a job, then they would train to perform as best as possible. I think in the 2nd, he is too much of a risk. I dont know if we have the CS to harness his mental instability or whatever you may call it and let him reach his potential... And we can’t waste another high pick on a player who has so much question marks, not with the amount of wholes the Jets have. If he does poorly or even mediocre at his proday, I can see him dropping to day 3. Look at Justin Houston last year- he had “some” character concerns, did very well at the combine, and had a good senior season. Now, he may have been overrated, but no one here expected him to last til the mid 3rd. Burfict has a TON of character concerns, had a terrible combine, and not a great senior season... I could see him free falling to day 3 easily, but then again, all it takes is one team.
I cant see if I have a Vilma avatar still... cant see them on my monitor...but that is a TERRIBLE assessment of Vilma. Not the topic of this thread but what a misguided comparison that is if what you say about Burfict is true. Vilma might not be a human highlight reel but he is a very cerebral MLB that controls his D and we lost out big time by letting him go.
I would love it if Burfict was available in the 5th round. It sounds like he's falling fast which may mean he could be available late in the draft.
Yeah, further along the draft I wouldn't mind taking Burfict with one of the compensatory picks and see what we can do with him. But for any team to take him in round 1 or even 2 right now is foolish. The only way he doesn't free-fall right now is if he suddenly runs a 4.7 at his Pro Day AND can convince the NFL execs that he's not stir-crazy. From that one assessment I saw, he did zero during the combine interview process to dispel any ideas that he just "doesn't get it"
Burfict in the 4th round or lower is excellent value. Screw his 40 times, if you watched any of his college game tape, you can see he's got excellent closing speed on the QB.
The problem is, he had red flags coming into the combine, then he showed up looking fat and out of shape. You do not show up unprepared for the bigggest job interview of a life time when your already a step behind due to your past. You go there looking to erase it if you care. Some team will roll the dice on him, but he really seems to be he exact type of person we do not want to add to this locker room.
Your argument holds water if the Jets are looking to select him in the 1st 2 or 3 rounds, after the 3rd round, his talent outweighs his off-field issues. I wouldn't turn away value like that, and I would hope Rex/Tanny wouldn't either.
I'm more of a 5th or later on a guy with his issues. Through the 4th we can get guys who are viable players taht will contribute this season in some form. Its jsut the ammount you value talent over negative attitue. We have enough of those guys for now, we need some guys that can contribute with makeing waves.
Many of you are really over reacting, Burfict had a bad workout but his ceiling is very high and when put in the right system and controlled he can be a starter out of the gate. You can't say that about many draft prospects. If he drops to the 3rd I will be shocked.
Ive seen crazier things happen come draft day. Like I said before, Justin Houston was regarded as a late 1st rounder, had a good senior year, had a good combine, but had some character concerns. He dropped to the 3rd. Burfict had a poor senior season, terrible combine and huge character concerns. It only takes one team to bite, but I could see Burfict free fall to the 3rd, 4th or even 5th round. Especially if he doesnt perform well at his pro day.
Didn't see your post before, my apologies. While those were factors, his stock dropped mainly because of a failed drug test , that can kill peoples stock, especially since he wasnt such a highly touted prospect like Burfict . Even after dropping to the 3rd Houston proved great value for the Chiefs racking up 5.5 sacks and 56 tackles. Not bad for a rookie. He proved he was worth the risk in the 3rd and doesn't even have the talent that Burfict has. Burfict won't get past the Ravens in the second, there is just no way, he is too talented to pass up for the future. Many teams don't want to regret not picking a player up, Burfict could become just another example of that.
The workout is only a small part of it. The reports of GM's/ Scouts not likeing him in the interview process is more tellign to me. Red Flags + bad interviews + bad work out = free fall to me. Sure it could all be a huge smoke screen by a team or teams trying to get him into the early third, but its worth noting at this point that he looked like he did not care and acted like it at the combine.
He seems discouraged, I think that is because his former coach was such an asshole and essentially tried to black ball him. Every year a scout doesnt like a prospect and calls him a player not to draft and every year a player dissproves that scout. He certainly has issues but if they can be harnessed correctly he can become an outstanding player. I want him either here or the Ravens. Here because I love his potential and the Ravens because that franchise can deal with bad attitudes and create great players, they have a track record of such. For example Jimmy Smith, all the talent in the world but has big issues, he did well as a rookie and should become a great starter soon.
If what people say is true, which we have NO idea of knowing, then his biggest problem is not understanding that HE himself is a big part of it. If there's anyone he reminds me of it's Brandon Siler.
