I don't think we should start Sam against the Eagles because it is meaningless game. But you can't not start him in the regular season because you worry about injury. Injuries will happen & you drafted him to play. Our O-Line will not be any better than it is on opening day. We should have all the starters. Granted they aren't the best O-Line, but they're the best we have. Either you put Sam in bubble wrap all season and wait for next season to play him or you play him day one. I know if Sam gets injured there will be a lot of people calling for Bowles head for starting him, but injuries are a BIG part of football that you can't run away from and if you try, then your in the wrong sport. Let Sam go through his growing pains & take his lumps this year so he will get valuable experience for next year.
Are people really arguing we should have kept and started Teddy? Teddy was a rental in case we ended up with Allen or other. When we landed Darnold and especially when he showed he can play Teddy was gone. This is Darnold's team just as it was Sanchez's team until Darnold proves he can't play. He has showed already he can handle the pressure and that the speed is not to much for him. You pick him that high you play him period. This was the easiest decision a GM has ever had to make. No, it does not matter if Teddy is better (He was on a one year deal) you ride with your number 1 pick 3rd overall until he becomes good or busts. Siitting him does not help the Jets or Darnold develop (He needs to play)
Sorry, but I respectfully, albeit vociferously disagree. Why do you think the OL won't improve? Sorry, but that makes no sense. The starting OL has not been able to play together in a single preseason game and have even missed chunk of camp time with either Beacham or Winters out. It takes time for an OL to gel, especially when they are using a new blocking scheme. It makes total sense to sit Sam for the first 4-5 games then start easing him in or hand him the ball. You absolutely can not start Sam. Saying it should be all or nothing is silly and is illogical reasoning. Injuries are a part of football, but there's acceptable risk and foolhardy risk, and imo starting Sam with a shaky OL (at best) that has no played together during preseason and is adapting a new blocking scheme is totally foolhardy. It's begging to get him injured. He can still take his lumps and go through growing pains this year without starting every single game. Again, that's just illogical and silly.
Wolford is here for one reason and one reason only and that’s to take snaps in the last preseason game. After cutdown day he will be back to flipping burgers at his local McDonalds. Jets are obviously comfortable going into season with two QBs only. If Darnold was to go down for any extended time it would suck just as bad as if a Teddy was still here since this season is likely all about his development. If McCown then also goes down well who cares as the season would be over just as it would for any other team that loses their top two QBs. This was a job well done by Mac, no amount of whining will change that.
Agreed. That would put the Jets with no picks in the first 3 rounds and no 6th, in a year we need to put talent around Darnold to help him hopefully take that next step.
So we arent gonna play our best players bc we’re scared of injury?? Talk about self defeating Think of how many rookie QBs have started year 1 behind shaky OLs.Its really quite common. Yes there have been some casualties but far more success stories or at least survival if you will. When you factor in the overall state of OL league wide & how many teams are in similar positions as well as the fact that by all accounts Darnold is ready to play & SHOULD play..you lose me on this one What makes Darnold a special case that he cant start when he appears ready behind a suspect OL when so many other less equipped rookies have done so & so many other QBs willl do so this year?
They will put Wolford on the practice squad as insurance incase one of our QB'S get injured, & as a possible backup next year.
It would have to be 2019 1st and 2020 3rd for us to digest. On the flip side, Oakland probably wants the return sooner because the Jets most likely have top of the round picks in 2019.
I'm sorry but this mindset is absurd. You start your best players. Sam proved he is ready. He made good reads and adjustments pre and post snap. The game is not too big for him. At his current development level sitting and watching will not help much. You can't run an NFL team based on fear and what ifs. You use what you have at your disposal at the time you have it.
Obviously, I disagree. We'll just have to agree to disagree. IMO you're looking at it from a negative perspective. It's not a matter of not playing our best players, nor is it self defeating. That's a silly notion imo. It's being smart and giving our OL time to gel before starting Sam. It's not gonna hurt Sam one iota to sit the first 3-4 games while the OL gels and give him time to really study the defensive alignments that get thrown against the Jets and will help him better prepare for when he does start. Then he can come in an have a better chance of staying healthy and playing up to his potential.
Injuries can happen to any one and no matter what shape or size. Expecting Darnold to take a hit once or twice a game, but basing on what I saw against teams like the Giants, he won't last long.. You and I can make assumptions all we want but the proof will surface soon enough. Watch the 1st game of the season against the Lions - It's been stated by many so called experts that Lions pass rush is their weakness. If the Jets OL can't match up to them to protect Darnold, it's going to be , not just long, but scary nail bitting season to watch Darnold get hammered and clobbered by better teams
I'd say start him. let him get reps but only like 1 series and then let mccown and that new guy we signed finish the rest of the game
Looks like mac did a great job on his timing Josh Dobbs, Mike Glennon drawing trade interest Aug 30 8/30/2018 7:56:25 AM | More As teams put the finishing touches on their quarterback rooms in time for the regular season, a pair of backups are available, Chris Wesseling of NFL.com reports. The Steelers' Josh Dobbs and the Cardinals' Mike Glennon are drawing interest leading up to this weekend's final cuts, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported on Wednesday's edition of NFL Total Access. A fourth-round draft pick out of Tennessee in 2017, Dobbs is expendable now that Mason Rudolph is onboard as Ben Roethlisberger's heir apparent and veteran Landry Jones remains favored in the No. 2 role. After a disappointing preseason effort last year, Dobbs has faired better this August, generating a 101.9 passer rating on 31 attempts. After washing out in Chicago, Glennon signed a two-year, $8 million contract to operate as Sam Bradford's backup in Arizona. Now that the Cardinals have No. 10 overall pick Josh Rosen ready to hold the clipboard, though, Glennon is more of a luxury than a necessity. 2 other QBs are up on the trade block now as well. he got rid of teddy right before his value dropped off sue to supply and demand
There are arguments on both sides of the fence, and yours is a logical one and I hear what you're saying, but I have a superstitious mind. I'm gonna watch the late great William Castle's 'Homicidal' for some tips about what I'm gonna do to this FO if he Sam Darnold starts getting beat up mercilessly. Sometimes even stellar actors can't rise above shitty material is what I'm saying as an analogy re: Sam/OL. This is in no way a pun about the film 'Homicidal'. It's strictly for murder ideas should it become necessary.
No, this more complicated than just arguing that we should have kept him to play instead of Darnold. It's was not a question of whether Teddy is/was better. My argument is that there was no absolute urgency to deal him away at this point in time when: 1. The OL is such a questionable bunch, why throw a rookie in front of that mess ? 2. They could have sit Darnold for a few games and break him in slowly to see how the OL holds. 3. By playing TB for 2-3 games they could have waved him in front of other teams for starting lineman or a higher pick But Mac pulled the panic button on this one , imo. This is why we have people here creating threads like " Are the Jets the right team to break in a young QB?" So far, for this regime, their past history deserves to be questioned on this.
Yup... let's bag the season before it starts and waste another year with Josh because we may have a spotty offensive line. How about coaching the guys up and scheming around weakness once it's been identified. Shit.. right now we don't even know if the line will preform poorly. Can we at least wait a game before waving the white flag.
Sorry, solidgold , don't agree with this assessment. Comparing TB to these 2 bench warmers? Teddy is Johnny U. compared to these 2. If Mac was patient enough and rode it out a little to about 3 games into the season, TB would have been worth a lot more than a 3, imo.
So Darnold is absolutely screwed behind this OL to the point where you don't even want him starting, but Teddy would thrive in the first three weeks to the point of upping his trade value "a lot"? The logic here is severely flawed.
