Brexit!

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  1. Satan

    Satan Well-Known Member

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    This twitter post has caused great mirth( outside usa) shown up to the rest of the world ( outside usa) what a danger trump could be.
     
  2. GordonGecko

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    You have it completely fucking backwards. It's what will happen if we can't smarten up the democratic party & media "elites" (and what has already happened to the GOP since they couldn't wise up either)

    Middle class Americans (of all races) just aren't being respected and until they are it's a straight road to the useful idiot that is President Donald Trump and nobody cares one iota that he's an ignorant blowhard
     
  3. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    1.6mil voted to stay. Over a million voted to leave.
     
  4. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Anyone with a brain outside this country should understand that neither candidate is a good thing for the rest of the world.

    Anyone with a brain outside this country should know that whatever result the US election brings will be worse than the UK leaving the EU.
     
  5. Satan

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    both trump and billary worry me. Both have skeletons in their closets.
     
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  6. Petrozza

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    :) :) Breitbart wasn't "founded by a co-founder of the Huffington Post." Breitbart worked for one of the Huffington co-founders at some point but he wasn't one of the founders.
     
  7. Br4d

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    Ariana Huffington was a right-wing bloviator before she was a left-wing bloviator. What that makes her most likely is just a bloviator.
     
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  8. GreenWhiteandGold

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    That's fair enough but it only deals with the side of the equation based in the north. People seem to assume that those in the South will just vote for reunification without question. Trust me nothing could be further from the truth. There is a six billion pounds deficit between what it takes to run the north and what is generated up there, the British government is on the hook for that six billion. We as a country couldn't afford it and that's before we add on the extra cost of policing, social welfare payments ( our social welfare system is far more generous then the British one).
    The security issue is another one to be considered. No matter what there will always be a significant portion of the population against a united Ireland, that will lead to the re-establishment of groups like the uda and uvf and we are in no way set up to deal with attacks on our cities like the ira launched in British cities.
    The idea that this leads to a united Ireland is a fanciful one that ignores the idea that the majority in the south don't want it back on financial and security grounds
     
  9. Yisman

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    Ever since Michael Jordan refused to talk politics--(“Republicans buy sneakers too,” he reportedly said, though the veracity of the quote is suspect)--athletes have tended to steer clear of politics. But the Beckhams decided to come out for #Bremain. And, typical of English soccer on the global stage, they lost."
     
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  10. mute

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    Yeah. You search Brexit and it throw Brexit articles at you. Same goes for foods or whatever else you search. The source didnt matter though. All one needed to do was watch the videos.
     
  11. mute

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    nope.
     
  12. Yisman

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    I wonder if Trump is really as stupid as his public persona. Hard to imagine a guy would want to appear like an idiot, but it seems he goes out of his way to do so.
     
  13. Jets Esq.

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    Those are good points; certainly reunification would be expensive. With a population of something like 65m in the UK, vs 4.5m in Ireland, obviously it'd be a bigger burden for the Republic of Ireland to pay for the security given that it has far less financial resources. The security issues would also be serious.

    However, in a big 2010 poll in the Republic of Ireland, 57% supported reunification, with the rest split between "no" and "not sure." That was after the Great Recession, and the devastation of the Irish banking and housing sectors. (In other words, Ireland was even less able to afford reunification in 2010, and they still supported it.) You bring up many rational arguments, but reunification is an emotional issue.

    The main political party of Ireland is supposedly in favor of reunifying, so they'd have to at least lukewarmly support it, or else the party would split in two. Obviously Sinn Fein would ardently support unifying; and they'll be trying to convince people that reunification would lead to an Irish Renaissance that would boost the economy. (It doesn't matter that that makes no economic sense.) So the two biggest political parties would be supporting it, and I'm sure others would as well. It's an easy sell to portray peaceful reunification as patriotic and therefore the right thing to do.

    The "Unify" campaign would assure people that the EU would provide generous aid to help Ireland pay the costs of reunification and security; just as Leave assured Britons that they'd have an extra 350 million pounds a week going into the NHS. (It doesn't have to be true, and most politicians are good liars.) They'll say "The security issues won't be comparable to those of the Troubles because we will treat the Protestants fairly, and Britain will not be asking for Northern Ireland to rejoin the Kingdom, so they will have nothing to fight for. Britain doesn't want them back. We will reunify and sort the rest out when our nation is made whole again. Think of your heritage, think of your grandfathers that..." and so on. I think that those arguments will carry more weight than the economist waving his hands about budget gaps that are completely beyond the understanding of the average person.
     
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    Your very much on the ball and any vote would be a very close run thing but I think you slightly under appreciate the fact that those of us in the south enjoy a very peaceful existence. Even during the troubles the Republic was never really affected that much (there was two attacks of note in the south in Monaghan and Dublin). I believe a no campaign could easily manipulate and frighten a southern voter who has never known problems into voting no quite easily. Threaten them with the uda launching a bombing campaign in Dublin,Cork etc and they will run mile. Add to that a younger generation who know nothing of the war of independence, Collins, DeValera and have no emotional attachment to the north, who have never known a tough day in their life's. Tell them they risk their cities being bombed (whether it's truth or lies) and they will vote no by the truckload.
     
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  16. Sundayjack

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    Farage is just amazing. His speech to a bunch of pissy Eurocreeps. The way he insults them all to their faces is really something to behold.
    I'ma write-in Nigel Farage next November.

     
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    He's an assholes with bad teeth.

    Sent from my BLU LIFE ONE X using Tapatalk
     
  18. FJF

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    he just spiked the football.
     
  19. RuJFan

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    Too bad he can't run here.
     
  20. deathstar

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    His main existence is being anti Europe.

    Wtf would be be against here? Anti North America?
     

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