Schotty annoys me...But the guy has found what works with Sanchez and the crew...So instead of trying new things just stick to the damn identity we have. It seems when they go pass crazy in his offense things always go bad
Not only that, he's smart because he knows the Jets are going places. We're a team on the upswing. His resume' will be just as valuable (or moreso) after 2010. He loses nothing by staying here at least another year or even more. I'm glad he's staying. We've had enough turnover and inconsistency and besides, his playcalling is much improved now. And I like that he has chemistry now with Ryan and Sanchez. As we paratroopers say, "All the way, baby..."
So true, so true... My take: Schotty isn't ready to be a HC. He is probably at about the same level that Mangini was when we hired him, and all parties agree that he could've used another year of coordinator experience. As we have seen, he has grown as an OC during the time he has been here, but he is really just starting to get it. Likely no small thanks to Rex watching over him. I'm sure he understands that another successful year will not only improve him as a coach, but allow him a better resume to support him should he falter in the first year or two of his future gig. I was never a big fan, but if he continues to call plays like he has been recently, it'll be nice to have him around for another year. Then don Callahan can take over with a few years of experience coaching under Schotty, which helps ensure our team's continued stability.
I think Schotty is waiting for Rex to have that ill-fated heart attack. It's bound to happen in the near future after chowing down 340 White Castle burgers. Schotty will be our head coach in the next 2 years...mark my words.
Uhh... what's wrong with you? Anyway, I think Shotty knows that things are happening with the Jets potentially something really special. You don't leave a team that you helped build for 4+ years who are on the verge of becoming a powerhouse with the potential to win a superbowl. I would much rather win a superbowl as an OC than win 4-6 games a year for the next 2+ years as a HC.
I think Shotty gets a worse rap than he deserves, hes been calling it pretty well recently. Not to mention Sanchez needs to develope a bit more as a QB before having to learn a new system with a different OC
Almost anyone, coach or player, on a non-championship NYC team will have that problem. When you're not winning SBs it's because of a lack of intelligence and character. Good point Brothermoose that he's basically at where Mangini was at when he dicked Belichick. If you're going to be a coach, pad your resume as a coordinator at least so that people will take you seriously in the long run. If he's Brian Schottenheimer the former coach of Mark Sanchez and the coordinator of a top Jets offense, it'll make his life a whole lot easier. He should be there within 3-5 years.
Gotta admit though he's really called some great games since then... I think he's finally in synch with what the offense can and likes to do.
Gotta agree with the above. When Ryan finally "got involved" with the offense (after our slide to nowhere), I think he sat down with Schotty and told him, "Do what our offense is capable of doing... not what typical playbooks say is ideal." We're capable of running the ball... so let's fucking run it! Let the run take the pressure off our rookie QB so that he CAN pass it if he feels comfortable. I also think Sanchez has come around at the same time that Schotty came around. He now realizes that a conservative decision can be an agressive decision. That being, throw the ball away for the best agressive approach to this drive. Sanchez as much as admitted that on SNY last night and I was delighted that he finally saw the light on that one.
I think you mean the rookie QB we have is finally starting to "get it" and improved a ton the past few weeks. I know this is counter-intuitive for us Jets fans, but perhaps if we exercised some patience with both our young rookie QB and offensive coordinator (who by the way has not worked with the same starting QB for longer than 24+ games), we may actually see an offense grow into something special. For the record, I have always liked Schotty, but was frustrated by his incessant need to call at least on "cute" play every week. Since he stopped doing that, the Jets and Sanchez have performed better. Incidently, comparing the scoring O this with Sanchez and last year with Favre, reveals some interesting tidbits: 2009: Ranked #17 w/ 21.8 pts per game 2008: Ranked #9 w/ 25.3 pts per game 2007: Ranked #25 w/16.8 pts per game 2006: Ranked #18 w/19.8 pts per game In 2006, that team scored with smoke and mirrors with 2 rookies on the offensive line and Pennington coming back from arm surgery. In 2007, the Jets were horrendous due to both offensive line play and QB play - Pennington and Clemens were clearly not the answer. In 2008, with a scaled back and tailored play book for Favre, this offense scored over 25 pts per game - inclusive of the Favre injury and meltdown at the end of the year. And this year, starting a rookie QB with every team in the NFL knowing we were going to run the ball, the Jets still averaged almost 22 pts per game and had the #1 offense. Yes, I believe Callahan has had an impact with running game. Yes I believe the Jets offense has played much better since Rex stepped and acted as the Head coach instead of just some super defensive coordinator. HOWEVER, Sanchez didn't just magically get better overnight and you can tell that he and Schotty have gelled. That is something that Schotty had to do every week since mini-camps. And granted the results may not always be there in the score column, you can't deny that he hasn't had an impact.
Agreed! I was sure he would take the job. Too many good assistance jump before they are ready. After next season he will be the #1 top candidate other than Bill Cowher.
I think having to take notes from a defensive-minded coach really opened Schotteheimer's eyes. He realized that he was not ready to be a head coach because he was not ready to make all of the necessary adjustments on his own and there is still a lot about the game in general that he needs to learn. He has done an excellent job since Rex started "advising" him with the exception of the Atlanta game, and his Atlanta game plan probably would have worked if he had a quarterback with more experience playing in that kind of weather. His mistakes in that game probably served as a learning experience for him so he likely wants to stay on another year as an assistant just to pick his game up a little bit. Plus, it's Buffalo. Buffalo is not exactly a hot job right now, as evidenced by the fans trying to rent a billboard to attract coaching prospects(Cohwer). If he stays another year, he'll likely be able to grab any HC position he wants in much more favorable environments. San Diego delenda est.
Can I ask what about the playcalling changed since Rex supposedly sat him down? I do think Rex/Callahan said something to both Schotty and Sanchez. That said, I think that our running game gaining 733 yards in December is bigger, and unsurprisingly the only one we lost was the one we didn't get 100 yards in. Even then, we could have beat the Falcons if 2 of the 3 FGs we attempted go in. I think we've pretty much been doing what we've been doing all season...except our running game averaged close to 200 yards a game in December and Sanchez didn't turn the ball over. Not to knock Rex...Just thinking that it's overblown. I think alot more got said to Sanchez about realizing that the goal is to get positive yardage and keep the ball. It's OK to check down and it's OK to throw it away...things that Sanchez has been doing better at lately.
Well, a lot of Sanchez's passes, with the exception of the occasional shot down field, have been short and intermediate throws. A lot can be considered high percentage passes - slants, ins, outs, and curls. EASY reads. Also, in the majority of our wins, Sanchez has thrown the ball less than 20 times. It's not that big of a difference actually, but still. 5 out of the 8 games that Sanchez has STARTED and won, he's thrown the ball very little. Hell, even the bombs to Edwards have been into single coverage. Less chances to make mistakes = less turnovers. Brian Schottenheimer definitely has the mind to be a damn good OC and a successful HC when that opportunity comes knocking, but sometimes he gets a little aggressive (or cute as NDmick likes to call it) and it back fires...big time.
Statistically, any more than usual? Or is he just hitting them more? The major differences I've seen is that he continues to look downfield when he's flushed out of the pocket, but has been more willing to check down to Cotchery. This would be true because we might score more quickly in games we win. For instance, when we played the Titans we scored 14 within the first 10 minutes. Plus, the only time Sanchez had a good game and we lost was in Miami. This tells me when he plays poorly and turns the ball over it affected the offense. This is to be expected of a rookie. What wasn't expected (but probably should have been) is that people would try to find a non-Sanchez person to blame that on. Luckily the Jets and Schotty are looking past that. True, but can't have other teams and Sanchez himself not taking him seriously as a QB. Can't eliminate the pass as a weapon either. Happens to everyone. I hope he doesn't change either, because then it'll be that way when Sanchez is ready to get Rexgressive on offense.
Much more. Schottenheimer has been using the slant almost exclusively in the third and short situations where we throw. Also, he's cut out a lot of the plays where two WRs would run routes that would put them next to each other. It's not so much Sanchez being inept as it is putting too much pressure on a rookie QB and ignoring the ability of the running game. It is pretty similar to the problems that Roethlisberger was having up until last season. If the Steelers threw more than 25 times, it was pretty much guaranteed to be a loss for Pittsburgh. Now, Ben is making throws to win games(last year's Super Bowl, this year's game against the Packers). Schottenheimer was asking Sanchez to perform above his learning curve. After last week, they should have been taking him seriously. In fact, in both Miami games, Sanchez made some strong plays to either put the Jets in the lead or at least give them a shot at the win. Since his first game, Sanchez has been able to hurt opposing defenses, it's just that he's also been able to hurt himself and the Jets. Schottenheimer's most recent game plans have done an excellent job of reducing the latter and increasing the former. San Diego delenda est.
