Breaking News: A-Rod to Opt Out

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  1. devilonthetownhallroof

    devilonthetownhallroof 2007 TGG Fantasy Baseball League Champion

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    So you honestly think that Julio Lugo's .237/.294/.349 with 8 homers and 73 RBI is better than having Arod's .314/.422/.645 with 54 homers and 156 RBI? Plus the fact that Arod had BETTER postseason numbers this year than Lugo?

    That's beyond ridiculous.
     
  2. ShadeTree#55

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    You would not have made the playoffs without Arod this season.
     
  3. devilonthetownhallroof

    devilonthetownhallroof 2007 TGG Fantasy Baseball League Champion

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    He's a Sox fan. So apparently his team WOULD have made the playoffs without Arod this season.
     
  4. Baron Samedi

    Baron Samedi Banned

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    I'm not sure Lugo will be here next year. I honestly don't understand these guys' thinking at the SS position...every time they get a popular guy, they let him go and sign some middle of the road guy and overpay him.
    Is Cabrera available? :breakdance: :lol:
     
  5. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    yeah what is up with the revolving door at short in boston?
     
  6. 3rdAnd15Draw

    3rdAnd15Draw Well-Known Member

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    I love Yankee fans. Well, we lost A-Rod but we'll just go get Cabrera! And you'd "be willing" to give up Melky for him. Give me a fucking break. By the way, anyone who ever had any kind of problem with A-Rod about his attitude defense etc and anything not related to his hitting would absolutely despise Miggy after about a week. I'm almost rooting for this to happen because it would be such a train wreck.
     
  7. EcKo151

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    We always knew you did.
     
  8. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    you guys should try to trade wright for miggy to fill out your team latino roster
     
  9. Attackett

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    I'll gladly take ARod batting cleanup in between Wright and Beltran.
     
  10. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    ARod's as good a hired gun as it gets. If I were a fan of another team, I would gladly take him. As a Yankees fan, he can go screw himself.

    I'd gladly take Miguel Cabrera though. Yes, he's lazy and there's always the chance he is unable to play 3rd base down the line, but if the price isn't too steep, he's a chance I'd be more than willing to take. The kid can hit, and he's still young.
     
  11. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    A-Rod putting himself above the game

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    By Buster Olney
    ESPN The Magazine

    Alex Rodriguez couldn't be at the World Series to receive an award from Hank Aaron -- a family commitment was the stated reason -- but he managed to upstage Game 4, with the help of agent Scott Boras, who announced in the early innings that his client is opting out of his contract.


    The way this played out could not have been more apropos, because A-Rod needs to be bigger than the game; he needs to be more important than the Red Sox or the Rockies or any other team, or any other player. He is one of the greatest players in history at compiling statistics, the greatest ever at compiling wealth, and his next employer will have to buy into that. The World Series can't matter as much as A-Rod.

    Maybe that will work for the Angels, or the Giants, or the Dodgers, or the Red Sox. It is not going to be the case for the Yankees, who were prepared to pay Rodriguez the highest salary in history and couldn't even get him to the negotiating table, after his four tumultuous seasons with the team.

    There were some within the Yankees' organization who thought that Boras was bluffing, that there was no way he'd walk away from the Yankee dollars, but there were others who have been convinced for the better part of a year that Rodriguez would sprint away from the team at year's end.

    Rodriguez talked intermittently about loving New York and loving his place with the Yankees, but some of his peers within the team thought this was the real bluff. In the end, this meant so little to him that his time with the Yankees didn't end with the requested face-to-face meeting, but with Boras sending a text message with a document attachment to GM Brian Cashman.

    It's his prerogative to move on, of course. He has the right to make as much money as he can. But buyers beware: If you buy into A-Rod, well, he has to effectively own your team. He has to dominate your clubhouse. He has to be the story. His salary demands virtually require all of that, because no matter where he goes, A-Rod will likely account for 20-35 percent of his next team's payroll. He must be bigger than the manager, bigger than his teammates.

    His pursuit of Barry Bonds' record will be the focal point of your organization, the way that Bonds' chase of Aaron possessed the Giants the last five years.

    The Yankees have insisted that they won't chase Rodriguez, and assuming they stick to their word, maybe it's for the best. A-Rod never seemed particularly comfortable playing under the pressure of the Steinbrenner Doctrine, which renders all regular-season statistics meaningless without the validation of a championship.

    And some of Rodriguez's teammates were constantly perplexed by him, wondering why he had a knack for melodrama; they were awed by his talent and by his seeming insecurity, which they thought was at the root of his postseason struggles. He has played four seasons in New York and will almost certainly leave after two MVP awards, 173 homers and 513 RBIs, and yet somehow he never seemed to fit in entirely.

    Somebody will buy into A-Rod, of course. He's an extraordinary player. The cost will be hundreds of millions, and the heart and soul, of his next franchise.


    Buster Olney is a senior writer for ESPN The Magazine. He updates his Insider blog each morning on ESPN.com.
     
  12. Don

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    This is great. The Yankees are pissed and making sure everybody knows it. If Boras thought he could convince other teams that the Yankees were still involved this will put an end to that. The best possible conclusion would be if he has to accept less money from some other team now. Seeing how pissed they are now I wouldn't put it past them to come out and say he would have gotten more from us no matter how much he signs for since they never gave the Yankees a chance to present the offer. Of course Boras will attempt to spin it that the money isn't important but he may lose all credibility in the process. I'm sure they will have even more to say about it soon.

    "It's a shame," Hank Steinbrenner said. "But we are all in agreement: myself, my dad, my brother, all the baseball people. If you don't want to be a Yankee and paid what you're being paid, we don't want you, that's the bottom line. You'd be hard-pressed to argue that point. If you don't understand the magnitude of being a Yankee and understand what that means, and being the highest-paid player in baseball, I think it's pretty obvious"

    "If we're going to make you rich and we're going to give you the privilege of being a Yankee," he added, "you've got to show us you want to be here."
     
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  13. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    I'm sure the Sox would make that trade any day of the week with some donuts too. Those fackin massholes win and gloat and Arod opts out. I see it win/win for the Red Sox.
     
  14. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    In the end, this meant so little to him that his time with the Yankees didn't end with the requested face-to-face meeting, but with Boras sending a text message with a document attachment to GM Brian Cashman.

    What a scumbag move.... at least be man enough to tell them face to face. I don't like Boras one but I like Arod, I don't think the Mets have a snowballs chance in hell of signing the guy. Nope I'm sticking to my guns saying he is going to be an Angel which is fine with me living out here on the left coast.
     
  15. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    In the short term it definitely is. We will have to see how they spend that extra money now. Don't forget when they won those 4 titles in 5 years they didn't have a single superstar position player on the team. It was all pitching.
     
  16. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    That is what I'll continue to say, get rid of this all-star at every position crap. If you guys ever want to get back to the late 90's you need guys like Brosious, Sojo, O'Niel, Knoblicker, Wettland, Charlie Hayes, Tino....

    Obviously not those guys but guys like them that know their role and are ok with not being in the limelight but winning the World Series every year.
     
  17. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Exactly..they have a few like that now with Cano, Cabrerra and Phillips. They need to bring in more young cheap players like that. The young pitchers will be in the lineup next year. If they can add a couple of quality starters from outside they will have a good nucleus to build around.
     
  18. Baron Samedi

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    Well, I don't know about Knoblauch...he was kind of an adventure to watch, and a lot of fun....but that's about it.
     
  19. Yisman

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    screaming a smith is yelling about a-rod pulling down his pants, mooning the yankees, and telling them to kiss his ass

    this is going on on 1050 right now
     
  20. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    I knew he was going to opt out all along but doing it by having Borass send a text message to Cashman and not allowing the Red Sox and Rockies to have their moment is a pretty shitty thing to do.

    Like I said he sent them the finger via text messge.
     

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