Breaking Bad

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  1. Poeman

    Poeman Well-Known Member

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    Tyrus made the call? Very interesting...Btw, this episode was fantastic in its writing.
     
  2. Mr Electric

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    ^ Gus didn't take down the cartel. ...not even close.
     
  3. Brunell's Debt

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    At the very least, he set up Juan Bolsa and the Twins' deaths. That's on a whole different level from Gale.

    By the way, I only just realized that Juan Bolsa is "Johnny Sack" in Spanish. That's funny.
     
  4. Mr Electric

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    Gus didn't have the twins killed, Hank just got lucky and fucked them up. If he didn't go back for his ax, Hank would be dead.
     
  5. BadgerOnLSD

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    I just think the rocks are a distraction for Hank. Besides, blue corundum is fucking awesome.

    I think the blue corundum/blue meth connection is reaching, but you never know.
     
  6. Miamipuck

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    Lol that is just as viable, probably more so. Unless Hank has blue balls........

    I thought blue Corundum were Sapphires. hmmmmm
     
  7. Brunell's Debt

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    Gus told Hank, a trained and deadly DEA agent, not only that two men were coming to kill him but the exact moment they would arrive.

    He didn't know that Hank didn't have his gun--if Hank were armed and in a clearer mental state he would've been able to defend himself much better.
     
  8. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    I'm near certain that Mike was the one who spoke to Hank, but that's a nitpick. Gus did set it up. He wanted a bloodbath.
     
  9. Mr Electric

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    Pay attention to the damn show.

    The twins wanted to kill Walter White, but Gus protected him and gave them Hank instead.

    I am almost positive the fixer called Hank to warn him about the potential hit.

    You act like the twins were amateurs. They were "trained and deadly" as well - just working for the other side of the law.

    The final scene in One Minute was an unsuccessful assassination attempt on Hank.
     
  10. Brunell's Debt

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    You're right, it was Mike who told Hank. But Mike works for Gus, and he would only do something like that on Gus' orders.

    He gave up Hank to the Twins then had Hank warned that they were coming because wanted a bloody shootout; he knew that it would turn the Feds against Juan Bolsa. With Bolsa and all of the Salamanca's out of the way, the Cartel had no leadership and Gus could take control of the market.

    Again, I just don't see Walt as being able to pull any of that off. As I said above though, I think the next few seasons will show Walt's development into a kingpin.
     
  11. Miamipuck

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    Gus always had control of the market, if you recall Juan told him, "It's your territory". He had to sell the Cartel's product. He doesn't have to any longer. He controls the product now as well, that is much more profitable I am sure.

    Edit: The cartel was also ok with Gus finding supplemental product, I do not recall the conversation word for word.
     
  12. Trifco

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    I don't think she's been so self-righteous lately, and I think she may become Walt's cold blood conscience eventually; that's why I've been finding her less annoying lately.

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    Mike is pissed off right now at Walt, so he won't accept any deals with him in the meantime.

    I think Walt is pretty annoying for his partners because he doesn't act like he's supposed to, specially about Pink. Saul accepts his antics barely because he gets paid, but he can't understand why not ditching a problematic minnow when that's the easy and obvious solution.
    This has led to all kind of problems that any boss would've avoided pretty easily.
    I think that plays a part in Mike being pissed at Walt.
     
  13. Mr Electric

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    Watch the "problematic minnow" come out on top when it's all over.
     
  14. Trifco

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    Probably, but still they don't see it right now (Saul, Mike, Gus).
    He's just that, a problematic minnow and all three of them would have get rid of him long ago.

    They can't understand (and it pisses them off) that Walt (who otherwise is a guy they're ok doing business with) doesn't get rid of him and rather jeopardize the whole operation in order to protect him.
     
  15. pats-hater

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    I agree with your thoughts here 100%.
     
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    Walt is loyal to him and although it seems that loyalty is not 100% returned, it is.

    During more than a few very important and life-changing events, that loyalty was impressive and very climatic.
     
  17. JCotchrocket

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    Possible, but I doubt it. I think Jessie dies hard at Walt's hand. Pinkman had his chance to walk the good path, but he chose Heisenberg instead- he's going to pay for it, and not just in awesome guilt parties.
     
  18. Brunell's Debt

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    I think it'll go the other way around. Eventually Heisenberg will go too far (maybe doing something that mirrors Gus supposedly ordering that kid's death) and Jesse will kill him and walk away from the drug game.

    The great thing about Breaking Bad is that it could literally end in a million different ways though. Gotta love a TV show that takes real risks.
     
  19. JCotchrocket

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    Sure it's possible... but the politics of popular television dictate that the show goes on without Aaron Paul. It doesn't go on without Bryan Cranston.
     
  20. Trifco

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    I totally agree on that.

    (Now I'm not sure if you're saying it because you think I don't understand Walt's reasons or just to add something to the discussion.
    For the record, I love that dynamic between the two of them, that's what drives the show forward... I'm just saying that the rest of the characters don't understand that and they don't have to, they're supposed to be mad because of it).

    Jesse's arc is more interesting than Walt's, because he has the same moral conflicts that Walt (currently) has ("breaking bad"), but he also have a lot more demons inside that he'll have to overcome eventually.
     

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