If he had killed somebody like his drinking buddy donte stallworth did last year - would you be in favor of having him put on the Jets uniform and take the field representing the Jets? If had raped somebody would you be cool with him still playing for the team since he didn't commit the crime while he was playing for the Jets?
I applaud both the league and the organizations that go out and do their part to make sure this is enforced. Maybe if more employers were going to fine, suspend or fire their employees, people everywhere would begin to think that maybe it is more serious and maybe not do it. But then again, I'm probably giving humanity a bit too much credit to learn from its mistakes. :breakdance:
Lots of IFs there. He didn't kill anyone (luckily) and he hasn't raped anyone (that I know of). I'm happy for him to suit up and play sunday and let Mr Woody, Mr T and Mr Rex deal with this in house, not in the tabloids.
Wow, there are so many whiter than white folks in here. Ohhh I feel so clean coming into this thread, its like the alcoholics anonymous of TGG in here......BUNKER!?
We know Edwards has maturity problems, but what about the friends who allowed him to drive them all around, D'Brick and Gholston? I would assume D'Brick is somewhat of a leader on the team. I'd guess Rex isn't thrilled that he hopped in a car with an intoxicated teammate who is already on probation, much less attempt to stop him. They have enough between them for a limo, no?
50 vBucks says I can out-drink most people my age. I bet I blow a .2 and still have enough faculties to operate a vehicle. That doesn't mean I would. At 5:15am I would have watery bloodshot eyes whether I was drinking or not. These aren't excuses - they are facts. Having family as cops, I have heard enough stories to know that people have had a lot higher than .16 and pass a roadside sobriety tests. If you get in a car 5 minutes after drinking 1 beer you can blow a .1. I don't think 1 beer would affect a 220lbs physically fit man quite the same as a 100lbs woman. But the BAC test would show the same results. Everyone is affected differently. Its not an excuse - its a welcome mat to reality. I've gotten myself into a fully sober state in less than 1 hour after a few hours of hard drinking. If the adrenaline is flowing well and you got yourself a couple gallons of water, you'd be surprised. I don't know how YOU handle your alcohol but I have recovered pretty quickly when I needed to. There's no excuse for what he did. And there is no excuse for anyone to drive drunk. Also, I don't give a shit about a millionaire sports start. He can drive into the Hackensack River for all I care. I want him to be on the field Sunday so the team I root for can win. Otherwise I don't care. Any star, whether sports, entertainment, etc have and always will be above the law. Its a fact of life. Should they be? No. Does it happen? Yes. Let Lindsay Lohan drink herself to death. She should be the next sacrifice for the South Park Corn Harvest. My children are too young to understand this bullshit but when its their time, the proper role models will be my wife, myself, and those in the family that emanate good qualities of character and judgment. Especially those in the family that are law enforcement officers (yes they are of good character and not the occasional douche-bag police person). For now Disney princesses and Hanna Montana are fine....
Unless you're the size of a Jason Taylor barbie doll you won't blow a .1 after 1 beer. I think you're confusing .01 with .10.
Great post Fozzi. I'd love to have a beer war with you :wink: Lol, I can ride a scooter with no brain
I forfeit. You're English - you win. The fact that Europeans drink warm beer forces me to concede. I hate drinking beer in Italy. No one ever has ice cause they may catch "bronchite". Ask Mambo...
I can't believe people are actually trying to defend this dude lol Just say you want the guy to play because you want the team to beat the dolphins don't try to make excuses for the guy because he clearly fucked up and i would bet money this isn't exactly the only time he has been driving drunk as a jet he just happened to get caught this time
I think what people who say ... "Let the law deal with it. The NFL or the Jets have no business sticking it's nose into this type of issue." are missing is that part of the NFL product is it's image. And in player related issues it's the NFL's business that a vast majority of players are seen in a "positive light". While many fans could care less about what a player does outside of the field there are many fans that (while they don't expect 100% of the players to be choirboys) will begin to stop watching and paying for the NFL if an increasing amount of players are seen getting arrested, doing stupid stuff in public, holding out, causing problems with their teams, etc. These people are just going to say ... "It's not worth investing my time and money on these "hoodlums". I'm going to quit going to the games, watching the games on TV, and buying the NFL ticket." A vast majority of these people don't really consider the player roll models, they just don't want their favorite players to be jerks (for lack of a better term). There are some here who may not agree with that sentiment, but it is indeed a fact. Especially as the economy continues as is and people have less money to spend on entertainment, there are a certain percentage of fans who will spend their entertainment dollars elsewhere if these incidents continue to rise. Therefore, the NFL indeed has an interest in seeing their players don't screw up in public. Now we understand that the NFL has a policy that it can't suspend a player becuase of a first time drug violation. The Jets as a subset of the NFL also has a vested interest in seeing that their visible employees are not seen in a negative light by a vast majority of the fans. Therefore, if the Jets wanted to I really think they could find a "loophole" that would allow them to suspend or keep him out of the game (perhaps with pay) if they wanted to. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just saying that they probably could. I realize this contradicts what Tannenbaum said yesterday. As an example, look at Pacman Jones. He was cut from his team for numerous off the field problems (none of which involved convictions) and the league / team wasn't sued. I understand that Edwards hasn't been convicted yet and this incident is handled (by the NFL) separately from the bar incident last October. Personally, I think it couple be argued both ways, This is his second brush with the law in less than a year. So it could be argued that he didn't learn his lesson the first time and the Jets could sit him down (even though the original incident didn't happen when he was a Jet). However, he hasn't yet been convicted so if the Jets wanted to suspend him perhaps it's best to wait until their is a conviction. My thought is that the Jets are taking a middle of the road approach currently and not overreacting while clearly showing Edwards that he screwed up, hopefully without hurting the team too much.
Rex can try to take a hard stance against Braylon, but once the game starts, his competitive juices will be flowing and if/when the Jets fall behind and the run game isn't rolling, Braylon will get in there.
