If Da U Soldiers had some class that thing would have been halted before it reached ridiculous proportions. Da U Soldiers are involved in these incidents too often. The Rock went into the stands once. There was that brawl they started in Boulder. They've had incidents with FSU. On and on.
I have defended teammates before, I threw a kid through a fence in irish football after he punched my teammate. I have never hit players from behind with a helmet, i would never stomp on someone's calf like that POS Merriweather did. I respect Miami in football on the field but not off the field. Florida(Not as much as FSU) and FSU are just as bad. Im not a hater, I like ND and the yankees, the 2 most hated teams in their sports. FIU is just as much to blame, however miami tried to start a fight with lousville before the game this year. They supposedly cleaned up the program but the past few years showed they obviously havent. Bowden is the leader of a bunch of thugs but Miami is no better. I stick up for teammates, I dont stomp on calfs or heads, or hit people in the back of the head with a helmet, i fight straight up.
The reason that Miami players started swinging helmets because that's what the LSU players were doing last year when they brawled in the tunnel after the game. Hit me with a helmet once, shame on you, hit me twice, shame on me.
Updated:2006-10-16 18:18:12 Miami Analyst Fired for Brawl Comments Ex-Cane Thomas Supported Miami-FIU Brawl on Air By TIM REYNOLDS AP MIAMI (Oct. 16) - Former Miami player Lamar Thomas lost his TV analyst job Monday over comments he made during a sideline-clearing brawl involving the Hurricanes and Florida International. Comcast Sports SouthEast, a regional cable network that hired Thomas before the season, also decided to edit out his comments before the game is replayed later this week. "We do not support or condone any of the comments that were made by Lamar," CSS general manager Mark Fuhrman said. The network, which is available in 5.5 million homes, will replay the game twice Wednesday. Thomas made his comments as dozens of Miami and FIU players stormed the Orange Bowl field and fought during the third quarter of their teams' game Saturday night, an incident that led to the suspension of at least 31 players and forced officials from both schools to publicly apologize for the melee. "Now, that's what I'm talking about," Thomas said as the brawl raged out of control. "You come into our house, you should get your behind kicked. You don't come into the OB playing that stuff. You're across the ocean over there. You're across the city. You can't come over to our place talking noise like that. You'll get your butt beat. I was about to go down the elevator to get in that thing." Miami and Florida International have campuses 9 miles apart in Miami-Dade County. It was the first meeting between the two programs, and the Hurricanes went on to win 35-0. As the fight slowed, Thomas' comments continued. "I say, why don't they just meet outside in the tunnel after the ball game and get it on some more? You don't come into the OB, baby," Thomas said. "We've had a down couple years but you don't come in here talking smack. Not in our house." A tape of the fight, including Thomas' comments, was available on the Internet on Sunday and Monday. The game was available for viewing Saturday night on a pay-per-view basis. Thomas was a third-round draft pick of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1993 and spent six seasons in the NFL, three with the Bucs and three with the Miami Dolphins. He has a Gainesville address, but there was no listed telephone number for him in that area. He could not be reached Monday. Fuhrman said CSS consulted with Miami officials before determining what action needed to be taken. Miami recommends on-air personnel for its broadcasts, Fuhrman said.
Wow. Lamar Thomas is a Hurricanes analyst. Or rather, was. What an excellent choice to represent a university.
They jumped on the cardinal, thats just trying to be tough and they lost that one, thats not starting a fight, Hell someone tried to plant a flag on the main logo of another team and they went at it, yet they aren't thugs.
Ok, let them be lil girls and let one of their players get thrown to the ground and kicked in the head. Yeah. Any team would of done it. and its depressing how these kids are being linked to events that happened more than 10 years ago.
This crap is embedded in the school's culture. Stuff that happened years ago is going to be brought up until Da U Soldiers stop getting involved in these incidents. Did the Cowboys start a brawl in Tennessee a couple weeks ago? Did I miss that?
The problem with Thug U is that they fight like thugs and play like slugs. I'll be glad when Coker is out. As far as the fight itself...it's a Miami thing. Crosstown hating and all that. FIU's still a girl's school at this point, though...
Wow I'm surprised at this behavior coming out of Miami. Oh wait, I'm not surprised at all. I hate that scum team. Looks like they are making a comeback to the old days. Sorry Jet/Cane fans.
i agree they took alot of heat due to the rep theyve owned. but to be honest I guarantee Miami did nothing but talk shit while beating a school thats been around for what 3-5 yrs? if even that. the bow was WAY to much, Miami shouldve won by FAR more. Miami is losing their swagger and they continued to talk. I'm not justifying anything cuz FIU started it. but at that point I dont think FIU cared about the game as much as they did about anything else. point in case I agree Miami took too much heat for the altercation, but at the same time their "thug" monicker is pretty accurate. im sorry I just dont respect people who refer to their school as "the U" Coker is trying to clean up the team, I'll give him that. But what else is he gonna do, let the glaring things slide since his jobs on the line and it can no longer be hidden behind Wins? thats what I think the issue is, Miami isnt winning anymore so the bad press has increased. plain and simple
Here are my pointed thoughts: (1) FIU started the fight, so Miami retaliation is not so gosh darned hard to understand. (2) Miami has a decades-old reputation of thug-like behavior, so the college football-watching public will treat this like one more example (in fact, several of the articles I've read have included lists of MU bad conduct). The "Thug U" reputation doesn't begin and end within the walls of the OB. It filters back down when Michael Irvin gets arrested for crack, or when Ray Lewis gets caught up in a murder prosecution, or when Lamar friggin' Thomas tells us that they should continue the fight in the runway after the game. It's a reputation that is tied to "The U", and it will continue like that until someone makes a conscious effort to change it. (3) I thought Anthony Reddick and Meriweather were the worst of the MU players, and they should get more than just one game. I'm not talking about the FIU players here because FIU has already dismissed the worst of their combatants from the team. As far as I've read, Miami has only suspended their players for the Duke game. (4) Finally, the stuff I place on Coker's shoulders isn't what happened during the fight. Not entirely. Where I blame Larry is for the team celebration that went on while the penalties were being discussed. There was a guy who had NO control over his team. None. And here's the big concern: Larry Coker lets what should be a top-ten program get whomped in the Peach Bowl, and responds by passing blame to his assistants with mass firings. The team looks up toward the front of the meeting room and THEY know there is a guy standing there that doesn't accept responsibility (but that's nothing new to Donna Shalala). Why should they? As far as anyone is concerned, all prior problems and The U were the fault of a poor assistant coaching staff. Pure, distilled, crap. At this point, the only solution for both the on-field problems and off-field perceptions is a NEW FACE for the Miami program. Larry Coker should have been fired yesterday, and if he's not excused at the end of this season, I think we should expect nothing to change at The U.
me and my friend had this conversation yesterday, same exact points. and my favorite point you brought up in an earlier post was about Shalalashinanigans maybe needing a review herself.
- Thanks for correcting the name; Reggie Merriweather plays RB for Clemson. Anthony Reddick was the knucklehead who had used the helmet. Worst of all, he was also the same cat who shot at the guy who shot Willie Cooper before the season started! Reddick has demostrated that he is dangerous.
So did Sean Taylor, but isn't he still allowed to play and be a top 5 safety in the NFL? Reddick isn't on the same level, but he'd still be a good pro. Luckily we don't need him, so no worries about any Damien Robinson-esque situations.
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6066906?FSO1&ATT=HCP>1=8705 Miami's Coker should lose job after brawl Story Tools: Print Email Blog This Subscribe Michael Rosenberg / Special to FOXSports.com Posted: 15 hours ago Larry Coker said he doesn't have many bad days, and this was a bad day. It should also be one of his last days as head football coach at the University of Miami. If you haven't seen the brawl between Coker's Hurricanes and Florida International, you are missing mayhem seldom seen in American sport. Vince McMahon must be jealous. This was the XFL on amphetamines. Melee in Miami When South Carolina and Clemson brawled in their annual rivalry game, the schools did the admirable thing and banned themselves from bowl competition that year. The Miami-FIU brawl made South Carolina-Clemson look like a thumb-wrestling match. Helmets were removed and used as weapons. Players tried to perform surgery with their cleats. Frankly, it would be understandable if Miami wanted to cancel the rest of the season. But that wouldn't be fair to the Hurricanes' remaining opponents. People can argue about who is more at fault here, FIU or Miami. But that's like asking whether a fire was started more by gasoline or a match. I have never seen a one-team brawl. These are the same Hurricanes who got into a big scuffle after a bowl loss to Louisiana State and who stomped on the Louisville Cardinal logo at midfield before a game. The Hurricanes can't claim the high road now. The culture around the Miami football program is one that embraces thuggery and excessive bravado. Coker didn't create it, but he has allowed it to fester. He recruited and coached every player on this roster. And what we saw Saturday was a group of players who had no respect for the fact that they represent their school — and no worries about repercussions from their coach. (And if you want to say a lot of this applies to Don Strock's FIU squad, too ... well, no argument there.) Apologists can defend stomping on a logo as "just kids being kids" or say that Coker had good intentions when he signed linebacker Willie Williams, who had been arrested 11 times before entering college. But the brawl is indefensible. And it makes you realize that the Hurricanes have been on a slippery slope for too long. Coker seems to be a nice guy, but he needed to be more than that. He needed to provide discipline for his program. And he didn't. Stomping on logos and fighting in a stadium tunnel don't happen at every school, and that's why brawls don't happen very often. Coker doesn't seem to get that. After the game, Coker made one of the most astounding statements I have ever read from a coach: "I think that it will affect the image of our program greatly, but in a positive way," he said, according to the Miami Herald. "I think that when they see the video and they see how it was handled they will be impressed with our players." Coker seemed to think that his players looked good in comparison to the FIU players. He has since changed his tune and suspended at least eight players. But his initial comments are inexcusable. It doesn't matter if he thought FIU started it, or that his players behaved better. If your players are involved in a brawl, they didn't show nearly enough restraint, period. Can you imagine Joe Paterno's players doing anything close to what we saw from Miami? Can you imagine Tyrone Willingham, in similar circumstances, defending his players like Coker did? I can't. What is the point of having a football team if it so thoroughly embarrasses the university like the Hurricanes just did? Miami isn't some college-credit supermarket that needs big-time football to justify its existence. According to Business Week, the average SAT score for a Miami freshman is 1258. The students and faculty at Miami deserve better. Coker was probably toast, anyway — since losing the Fiesta Bowl to Ohio State four years ago, his program has been on an undeniable decline. He would likely have lost his job either this winter or next for the same old reason: he didn't win enough. In that sense, his exit won't come much earlier than it would have. But it will be more shameful.
I hadn't heard that part. The only reason why Larry Coker is still the head coach today is because losing a head coach in October gets them creamed in the in-state recruiting battles with Florida and Florida State. They could damage the program for a decade. I can cut them a short amount of slack. The U is going to have to bite the bullet sooner or later. At the very least, they ought to be spending these next two months searching for a successor for Uncle Larry.
