Braves @ Mets, April 20-22 Thread

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  1. vinsjets

    vinsjets Active Member

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    Ive always liked heilman, and hated mota...but i agree.
     
  2. 3rdAnd15Draw

    3rdAnd15Draw Well-Known Member

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    Really? The ball was in his glove.
     
  3. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    Like I said, it was inexplicably called a double, despite being an obvious error.
     
  4. Beamen

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    Here we go... Reyes represent the tying run.....
     
  5. vinsjets

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    That same pitch was a ball 2 pitches ago.
     
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    Our bullpen has just been awful today...
     
  7. 3rdAnd15Draw

    3rdAnd15Draw Well-Known Member

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    so has the defense. the mets have played incredibly sloppy against the braves so far this year.
     
  8. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    Sometimes Keith says the most ridiculous things. The home plate umpire has been horrible this game, calling outside pitches strikes all game, and Keith says he's calling a good game because he's been the same for both sides. No, Keith, a good game is one where the umpire actually gets the calls right.
     
  9. 3rdAnd15Draw

    3rdAnd15Draw Well-Known Member

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    sean has a chance for some redemption here
     
  10. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    SEAN gets the chance to change your mind once again.
     
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    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    And Shawn fails at the end.
     
  12. vinsjets

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    im watching TBS, and the guys since the beginning of the game have said how good of a Ball/strike ump this guy is.
     
  13. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    Well, that's just ridiculous, but that wasn't even Keith's point - he specifically said that a guy who has been consistently bad in calling balls and strikes is doing a good job.
     
  14. Beamen

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    Boy do I hate the Braves.... No matter how good we are, we're going to have to start beating them if we want to take the East
     
  15. 3rdAnd15Draw

    3rdAnd15Draw Well-Known Member

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    I think it depends. Most hitters would prefer a guy that has a consistent strikezone, even if by the book it's not technically correct. This guy today seemed to be the other breed though, inconsistent with his calls and technically incorrect, which is of course as bad as it gets.
     
  16. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    I don't know. The Mets did go 8-10 against Philadelphia in 1986, but finished 21.5 games better than them.
    I still think the Mets will finish at least 5 games better than the Braves.
     
  17. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    Of course players prefer someone who is consistent to someone who isn't, but IMO anyone who is consistently wrong cannot be said to be calling a good game. The goal for officials should always be to get it right, period.
     
  18. HCoftheNYJ

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    I'm with statjeff. The hitters have been training their entire life to know the strikezone perfectly. It's not right for an umpire to, for one game, to change the strikezone on them to fit his own style.
     
  19. ShadeTree#55

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    Pretty exciting game. Too bad we lost. The D let us down.
     

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