Play design, accommodating a players stregnths, play calling. A player can only operate inside the constraints of the system...but hey..maybe youve forgotten what it was like when Pennington was here.
We didnt have a top 10 offense. We were 16th in total offense, 9th in scoring..but of course, yoire referring to Brett Favre, who famously refused to run chunks of Schottenheimers offense. Remember we got Favre as the season was about to start http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...that-hes-the-best-new-york-jets-oc-since-1998
The stadium was rockin after the 4th & 1 stop. We were getting jeered by Pitt fans like we just got showed on the jumbo-tron in our birthday suits. Then the Safety happened and everyone was dead quiet...except for the small pocke4ts of Jets fans that were there. That was pretty invigorating to us. But then the stadium erupted again on the failed Defensive stop. There wasn't one person in that stadium that said it was over after the safety, until the failed stop by our D. The whole stadium knew the Jets had a chance to take it away.
the jets did that. they completely changed the offense because of the strengths or lack there of of the qb.
Keep telling yourself that. With the exception of Favre doing his own thing, they must not have done a very good job of it. Mired around 25 th. yes ot was all Penny and Sanchez.
everyone around me was really nervous after we scored the TD to pull w/in 5. They didn't relax until the 2nd 1st down which iced it.
Thank god for Mornhinweg. Imagine if we had him 4 years ago, Jets would have at least 2 super bowl appearances and hopefully at least one ring Where are all the Schotty lovers, I thought he was supposed to be a top line head coach by now??? He's a genius, remember?
Not to rehash the same argument, but you need talent to win. Coaching is important but if the players can't execute then it doesn't matter. Sanchez in 09 and 10 was a limited QB. We weren't gonna have sustained success with him on the team. Schotty while not great is still a good NFL coordinator.
Schotty is trash. Didn't even bother to get Austin involved last night against the Cowboys. The man had 2 TDs last week. The route patterns, the playcalling has been excellent so far. Thank God for MM!
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013092202/2013/REG3/rams@cowboys#menu=highlights&tab=recap Good coordinator my ass.
Just proves that fans gotta hate on an OC even if they can't do it to the current resident. Schotty is a mediocre talent at OC waiting for a great QB to make him look good. Yeah, I do it too.
I didn't watch the Cowboys/Rams game but I assumed the Rams offense looked bad. Hence why this thread was bumped. Where was this thread when Bradford was looking good in week 1 and 2? Where would any coach be if they didn't have good/great QB's to "carry them"?
The Jets offense in '09 after the trade for Braylon, and especially in '10, were more talented than the current Jets offense. If Marty had been coaching the Jets O from the beginning, Sanchez doesn't fail the way he did, and he likely would've been the difference between losing 2 AFC championships vs. maybe winning the Super Bowl in one or both seasons. Schottenheimer's offenses underachieved considering their talent level. His best offense ever was the year with Favre when the Jets O finished 11th in the NFL. Marty Mornhinweg has led a top 10 offense with the Eagles 7 of the last 10 years. The Jets offense is overachieving with its talent level right now, and should continue to do so. If the Jets had a consistent home run threat at RB/WR and even TE, the offense would be fantastic under Marty. How many times under Schotty did the Jets have 500+ yard games? I'm sure it wasn't many (the only one I can think of off the top of my head is the year with Favre vs ARI). Getting rid of Schotty was the best thing for this franchise, even if we had to deal with Sparano for a year. Ending up with Marty made it all worth it.
Funny thing is, if Shotty had Geno to run his complicated Offense instead of Sanchez, Shotty might have been a great OC. Geno just seems more in control and never gets rattled. Sanchez would slump into a coma every game.
If Schotty had Geno we might've ended up with another green light red light system. Marty emphasizes getting the ball down the field. Schotty emphasized motioning the fullbacks and tight ends at the line of scrimmage. I'm fairly certain that many times Schotty's formations were more confusing to the offense than to the opposing defense.
Our O's were the perfect compliment to our Ds in those years where it looked like we had our QB for the next decade and we were playing for SBs. Maybe marty's O gets us over the hump in one of the title games or maybe we turn it over so much we don't even make a title game? either way the strength of our team now is the D as it was then and we didn't make a SB b/c that strength played like a weakness in the title games.
I agree, the D ultimately lost the championship games. What the offense didn't do was score points. That's where I think Marty could've made a significant difference. Rex's D is the best I've ever seen, but no defense in the NFL can consistently pitch shutouts, which is often what the Jets have needed in the past due to the offense's inability to put up points. With Rex's D, the Jets should win any game that approaches 28 points. Most of the teams in the NFL can't say that, and the Jets offense has been very fortunate in that regard.
