Absolutely right and they also completely refuse to mention that the defense gave up 14, 14, 16 and 21 points to the best teams in the NFL..no it was all our superstar QB...J-e-t-s...whatever.
I'm not overly overrating anyone's tenure with the Jets - especially not Mark Sanchez - who I still support because on this team right now, he gives us the best chance to win. Sanchez in those playoff games, stayed within himself and didn't try to do too much on the football field - what he's been good at is picking and choosing his spots. Pretty much that's all you can ask for in a young QB. I see Matt Ryan out here with the Falcons, and he's making mistake after mistake after mistake - throwing pick 6s before the half, can't get the ball to Roddy White or Julio Jones against a subpar Giants secondary. No disrespect to Matt Ryan, but that's what occurred on the football field. Critical stretch last season EVERYONE crapped the bed. You say that football is a team sport, so your going to blame the debacle we had on one player? To be in a situation like that as a 25 year old QB - The majority of QBs at that age tend to crap the bed ... Sam Bradford did last season, so did Josh Freeman in his 3rd season. And they have far more experience than Mark. If Mark learned anything from last season, it will only benefit him this season and down the road. Going back to last season though, we were still a few plays away from making the playoffs, a Cromartie fumble here and a Victor Cruz score there and we would of been in the big dance. To have a RT whose a 9 year vet, play like a rookie was a God awful experiment and so was not having another WR to stretch the field for Holmes. We don't even have to get into the real culprit, whom you seem to respect for some odd reason, and believe that this team won't perform better with Sparano as opposed to Schottenheimer - so I understand why your coming at me. All i'm saying is put the right pieces around him and he'll thrive. And if you can run the ball he's extremely effective on the football field. We've seen games like the Chicago Bears game 2 seasons ago where when he's in rhythm the guy can get hot and next thing you know the kid completes like 7 8 passes in a row down the field. I'm hoping that's what Sparano can bring to the table, get the offense in sync early. If we have to bring up the Pats victory, someone has to score in the end zone on offense don't they? And I didn't see the defense produce 28 points. And it's not like the Patriots offense only put up 3 points. To go into Foxboro, and make the plays he made on 3rd down, in the RZ - that takes some balls - oh btw didn't Flacco go to Foxboro and put up shitty stats? Ray Rice carried the guy to a win
I assume you missed that your post is contradictory. First you give Sanchez credit for supposedly playing up to the situation in the playoffs two and three years ago, and then attempt to excuse his performance in the stretch last year as a "what do you expect? He's a young guy!" thing. Well, which is it, he's great under pressure or he's too young to be judge on that basis? I never said Sanchez was solely responsible for the Jets not making the playoffs. I said he sucked down the stretch and DID NOT step up under pressure. Which is completely accurate. It's far from clear what you are saying about that Pats game, either. Are you saying the Jet D should have been holding the Pats O to 3 points to be successful? Do you know what the Pats averaged in the regular season that year? They LED THE LEAGUE in scoring, at 32.4 a game, yet scored only 3 points in the first half against the Jets (part of which was special teams - that fake punt that failed to convert - but the point remains the same, it was less Sanchez and the O that beat NE).
Not giving Sanchez credit for playoff wins, is just as silly as giving him all the credit. Obviously its a team sport, but Sanchez definitely played a big role in many of those wins. He's got like the 6th best post season QB rating of all time, that in itself shows he's done many good things in those games to help us win. And again, the negative nancies STILL bring up his bad stretch at the end of the year AS IF HE WASN'T INJURED AT THE TIME while completely ignoring the rest of the season. It's like they just LOVE to pretend that neck injury caused by poor oline play doesn't exist so they can fit Sanchez into their negative perceptions and bring everyone down with them. Drink a beer and enjoy the off season. Sanchez is heading in the right direction, despite being stuck in an overly complicated system his first 3 years. He's a beast and had a lot of touchdowns last year, he just needs to clean a couple things up and get better protection.
At the end of last year all of the following were true: 1. Mark Sanchez was playing hurt. 2. Wayne Hunter sucked. 3. Matt Slauson was playing hurt. 4. Brian Schottenheimer was truly afraid for his job for the 1st time. 5. Santonio Holmes was sulking and refusing to come to meetings that Sanchez called to try to deal with all of the above. 6. The Jets played 4 of the top 13 defenses in sacking the QB in a 5 week span at the end of the season including #1 and #3. Whatever else went on in the 2nd half of the season the facts are that Sanchez was standing on the deck of a burning boat and at least a few people were throwing gas onto the fire instead of trying to put it out.
Yeah totally. When you have to throw in pain and be more careful about getting hit each time it doesn't effect your accuracy at all. :lol:
Sometimes a QB has to stand tall in the pocket and take shots in the chops over and over again and still deliver the ball into tight windows without turning the ball over. That's what seperates great QB's from everyone else.
still defending schottenheimer? LOL he got canned dude, go root for the rams if you wanna suffer through that crap again. we have a guy who has a record of getting guys ready to play. something schotty has NEVER done. not once.
Jet fans who tell other Jet fans to root for another team because they don't agree on the value of some current or former member of the team are next to pond scum, in my personal opinion. That's not a personal attack - just a general observation.
You're just making it up that Sanchez's wittle pinched noive was affecting his accuracy. It's not like he was accurate before. You might have a case if he was, but since that's pure fantasy, you don't.
lol you just called me pond scum? no no, definitely not a personal attack, and this isnt either, you are an utter fool for refusing to accept that the players on the offense were not comfortable in schottys system and that schotty refused to adapt, which was a big reason the offense never clicked or seemed like they fully bought in. the guy got fired, and mark got a contract extension. theres no reason to argue about the guy anymore because he isnt part of the team, which is why i mentioned that he is now the coordinator for the rams. quite frankly this is about as pointless as it gets, considering tony sparano is the oc.
And most great QB's can do this reliably at 25? I seem to recall Peyton Manning folding in the clutch over and over again in the playoffs his first few years. Couldn't stand tall and deliver under ferocious pressure. Not because he wasn't a great QB but because he hadn't figured out how to manage that kind of pressure yet. Very few people can. Tom Brady damn near fumbled away the playoffs as a 24 year old QB under the microscope in 2001.
Are you trying to start an argument on that call? That's what it seems like This will be a great season to see what Sanchez has. Each year Schotty was here more and more people started to dislike him. Now we can finally answer the question, was it Schotty or Sanchez?
But depending on how much Tebow is used, it will not be that clean an apples to apples comparison. The funny thing is when we entered this off season, while we all knew they had to do something at #2 WR, I thought it likely to possible they would make the following other changes, too: Change of pace RB New RT Backup interior lineman (either Turner come back or someone else suitable replaces him) Trade Keller for a TE better suited to Ground and Pound Meanwhile I would never have predicted the Jets would trade for Tim Tebow. Well, none of those listed things have occurred, and the Jets did get Tebow. Despite the question mark about how much they use Tebow, I guess it is still overall true that Sparano's value will be assessed based on overall production even if Tebow's presence effectively means the offense's roster is different.
Has there been any news on how the trainwreck of an offense the Rams will be running in St.Louis has been going so far? I mean we seem to hear plenty about Jets guys on Sparano, but I can't seem to find (or hear) anything about Schotty and the Rams
Compare his completion % for the first half of the year, with his comp % with the 2nd half and you'll see the difference. But yeah, a stinger in the neck is no laughing matter, especially since his neck is constantly in use. It's not the worst injury in the world, but when you're playing with pain, the biggest issue usually isn't the pain itself, it's thinking about the pain and anticipating it. Unless you're a seasoned vet, it will undoubtedly cause some mental mistakes. I give the kid a pass on this one. Not only did he have to worry about the pain, he also had to worry about getting blinded sided at any given time from single coverage. Despite that terrible end to the season, he still put up career highs in many categories.
You can't measure Playoff games against Regular Season games, it's on a different scale man. One and done then your season is over. The fact that he wasn't a liability and made plays in each playoff game on the road tells me the kid can play when the pressure is high. We had team unity then - one goal in mind. The POS we witnessed during the last stretch of the season? The team was fucked up anyway by your boy Schotty - he knew his job was on the line and the dude cracked plain and simple. It's plain to see Holmes hated Schottenheimer and wanted nothing to do with him - didn't want to attend meetings with Sanchez ... most likely because Schottenheimer was in the room. Add in a bottom 2 RT, the inability to stretch the field, and a whole other bunch of problems and you got yourself a sinking ship. I mean hell the Dolphins game I think became a wash and it was all over - I could honestly say no one gave a fuck. Sanchez's role on this team is to move the chains, manage the game and make plays in the 4th QTR - I don't think Rex Ryan signed up for a pass happy offense. His job is also not to turn the ball over which I say he did a horrible fucking job with fumbles and back breaking INTs. Sanchez needs to work more on his fundamentals and I think Sparano will take Sanchez, start with that, move on I'm not disagreeing with you, the defense played amazing that night in Foxboro, but we still had to make plays on offense, we were able to move the chains and make plays in the RZ when it counted - you know how ugly we win.
