Fans just need a scapegoat whenever things go wrong and it's usuaully the OC and/or QB on offense. They tend to ignore the facts of the situation. We have a good OC and a good QB.
And this is the indictment against Schotty, bringing in Tom Moore to consult on offense, if he is as good as Junc says he is, why would you bring in help? Really guys let's look at the Jets offensive staff, Callahan and Cavanaugh had success in the NFL, and I will even look at it from the Schotty lovers perspective and say that he had success with Drew Brees as his QB coach in San Diego, how is it that this offense has never been one of the most productive in the NFL? Why would you bring in another person with success in the NFL, to consult on a staff that already has seasoned and successful personnel? What gives?
Just look at the bones. It's really that simple. Moore shows up full time and suddenly a Jets offense that has been struggling for most of the season is clicking on all cylinders. What does Moore add that has helped so much? He has no investment in Schotty's system but a great idea of what works on offense and so suddenly the screen pass is back to defuse the blitzes that were coming from all angles and the Jets are attacking the deep middle several times a game. That's why Sanchez jersey is clean except when his tackles screw up and let somebody have a straight line to him from the edge.
I will say this, to quote Winston Wolf, 'Let's not start sucking each others dicks just yet Gentlemen' Go check the Chiefs schedule. Every one has hung 24 or better on them. The Myth of their defense, is just that a myth. We did see many things yesterday, we hadn't seen here under this OC. Let's just hope that light at the end of the tunnel keeps getting brighter. I could be mistaken, but even Marks accuracy was better yesterday, hitting guys out front, instead of dead center, allowing smooth transition to YAC...
If only we used some of those plays in Denver. That 95 yard drive wouldn't have meant so much.... But hey..onward and upward.
That slant and go last week for the TD? Schotty couldn't envision that in his wildest dreams. That was pure Tom Moore. Schotty is just like his dad but not as good. He's rule-bound and likes order and has absolutely no give in him at all when things aren't working right. He added the wildcat in four seasons ago because it was working in Miami. He's still stuck on the wildcat as an alternate way to go. Things like the slant and go? It takes a real offensive mind to see that as the right thing to do as a change of pace to a slant heavy offense.
They dird the same thing w/ Callahan- is he not a good OL coach? we scored 28 2 weeks ago when Moore wasn't here full time.
Connor forcing a timeout before the first play of the game is schotty's fault. Everything after is because of Moore. Am I right?
28 points against the Bills, which is basically their season average allowed. The 34 against Washington was 10 pts above their average allowed. The 37 against KC was 14 above their average.
They allowed zero and 7 pts against KC and Wash so I guess this means Buf's D is better than ours? 28 pts is 28 pts, we had a brief 2 game struggle on O vs. NE and Den just like last year vs. NE and Miami in december. This O struggled earlier in the year when the OL was battered and we couldn't run- it all comes down to that.
Bringing back the wild cat has kept defenses honest. Running the screen a lot more has definitely helped Sanchez. Lets not forget our offensive line is playing outstanding.
I don't know how many times they ran it the first 10 games, but they have called a ton of screen passes the last three games, and you are absolutely correct that it has helped Sanchez.
It was recognized that when Turner went down and we weren't in the best position to go out and get some glue that we were gonna need to bounce more ideas off the wall about the o-line. Bringing in someone to help with the offense in its entirety is a totally different animal. It's time to give up this debate people. There's nothing left to say. Moore has new influence and our offense has new-found rhythm. Between this fact, watching games and noticing our offense looking confused and arrhythmic, recognizing the Brees/Pennington/Favre issues when working with Schotty and their relative success afterwards (Favre got MVP votes the years prior and after his Jets tenure), the fact Sanchez always seems to play his best when Schotty's influence is minimal, the redundancy of pre-snap motion in years past, offensive personnel talking to the media about our predictability, LT saying after the Raiders game that the opposition told them they knew what was coming, there are only so many arguments you can defend reasonably. Not every drive is bad, and he does make great calls and gets chunks of yardage. That's not the point. He is bad often enough that he is a liability. That's just the truth. The argument that "every fan says its the OC's fault" does not exclude the possibility that this OC really is not good. Or not producing enough with the talent we have. I'm glad we have Moore now, and God forbid if we decide to keep Schotty, I hope he is taking some serious notes.
LMAO at the Schotty Haters! Even a win is just another opportunity to bitch about Schotty. The fact of the matter is that the assumption that Moore is spending all his time working on play calling and schemes is based on nothing. An article in the Times over the weekend noted that Moore has spent a great deal of time working indiviudually with Keller, for example. Focusing on execution. Oh well, win or lose, the Schotty Haters hate. Some things never change.
Schotty is a great OC, he is just one unlucky bastard. The Jets bring in a consultant to fix the red zone O the red zone O is great the rest of the O sucks. The Jets bring in the consultant to work on the rest of the O the rest of the O is great. Chad leaves has his best season, Favre leaves has his best season, Sanchez gets Mannings OC working with him and he starts getting it. I feel bad for Schotty he will never get the credit he truly deserves for turning Brees, Rivers, Favre and Sanchez into HOF players and building one of the great offensive powerhouse teams one after another...
Except we brought in Jim McNally as a consultant in 2010, it wasn't after we lost Turner and Mangold went down. The design of the offense looks exactly the same, the difference is the OL is playing well, we are running and Makr is making good decisions. It's amazing how good an O can look when the players execute.
we scored 28 2 weeks ago when Moore was in South Carolina. Chad's best season was 2002. Favre was in a new system and we got him for a month before the season. How did Favre looks last year? It's so sad how typical fans react.
Well I'm just flat out wrong on the offensive line part, but not about bringing in someone to help with the entirety of the offense is not the same as bringing in someone for one section of the team. Especially after drafting raw Ducasse. The offense definitely doesn't look the same at all. We are using screens, and Patrick Turner/Ducasse/Baker and are #1 in the RZ this season. And you didn't address that the people who say Schotty isn't a liability have had to argue at least a dozen noticeable things that the other side has brought up over the years. Seriously... I'm not saying he's completely a detriment to the team. I allow for his good drives and good games, but overall he's a liability.
