Totally agree with this assessment. Sanchez is not the kind of Qb, and let's face it there are not many of them, who can get it done with a mediocre line, and in turn from that a lack of a decent running attack. Look at his boneheaded mistakes in the first half - if the OL had not been playing great, the Bills would have likely had much better field position by the time those turnovers occurred. But to everyone's credit the Jets stayed with it and it paid dividends in the second half. Yesterday was vindication for those posters here like me who have rightly pointed out most of the Jets problems on O were lack of execution. Even the biggest Sanchez Fans/Schotty Haters could not claim that INT he threw in the first quarter had anything to do with something other than a mistake on Sanchez's part. Same for the fumble. The OL's play allowed Schotty to put in plays calling for running the ball and to get enough time to throw it. That is the difference from earlier this season, and the three game losing streak in particular.
Hardly. The execution, was a symptom of the calls. For the first time yesterday, you saw guys coming inside, giving nice clear targets in less than 4 seconds. As I said last week, the throw to Plax for his third score is the kind of pass Schotty never uses, EXCEPT for 4 yards on 3rd and 6. Had Sanchez been routinely gettting rid of the ball quickly, because of the play design, he would not have gotten thumped in Baltimore. They're good, but they're not there in 3 seconds usually. I think it was three things. Schotty. 1st. (and lets face it we've won with him, but not nearly the way we SHOULD be) Mangold 2nd. (Missing the best center in football clearly hurts, when you have a streetwalker backing him up) Mason 3rd. (It seems that Kerley is already far more effective as the slot guy, and fwiw the rumblings that Mason wasn't keen on the playbook speak to the level of play we got from him) But....ALWAYS at the forefront has been the inexplicable denial of modern NFL reality in spreading teams out, on early downs and hitting quick throws inside the numbers. The way you hide a suspect line, is by getting the ball out from behind it. We should have been doing that a month ago. The playcalling looked better yesterday because it WAS better. It's been lingering out there, since the first Preseason game ...the first two drives agains Houston were all about ball control passing....
Schotty is (was) the problem. As I pointed out there are ways to help protect your line, especially when they're injured.
The first fumble where reed hit him he got hit in less than 2 seconds. it wasn't about getting rid of it quickly at Baltimore. He couldn't b/c he had less than 3 secs and no one was ope that quickly. Our Ol was brutal in that game.
No shit! Schitforbrains has been calling TERRIBLE games. Yesterday's game was a complete anomaly, you can only pray that he keeps this up and doesn't revert back to his 5 yard slant on 3rd and long
Meh. The point is not what one would do as OC if you had some flexible kinds of players to use a different approach with. And then say that different approach could be used to overcome the weak OL. You have to play the players you have, and I don't think even Sanchez Homers think he's great at whipping the ball out there quickly. He's not that good at reading defenses quickly. So that's not really an option. And I didn't have a stop watch, but I don't think the OL in some of those earlier games was really holding the pass rush off for a full 3 seconds.
1. Breaking the O rhythm 2. running on 3rd and long 3. 9 yard passes on 3rd and 10 /or the equivalent. 4. Not reading the game: letting Sanchez get into rhythm /if Sanchez is on a bad day, don't changing the game plan, if he's doing great, not exploit that. 5. Insist on calling plays that haven't worked. 6. Dropping plays that have worked every time. Obviously not all the loses are his fault and never is only his fault, performance is key. But all these points are on Schotty, nothing to do with performance or injuries. Yesterday he didn't had too many of this. Hopefully he's improving.
Yesterday, He did all the things he had not been doing. Sanchez out from under center. 3 or more Wideouts, Ball gone quickly. Many throws inside the numbers, or on the numbers closest to the hashmark of the spot. Rolled him out a few times. They looked like a decent NFL offense in 2011, not 1980. BB, it's not just a slight thing, yesterdays game was glaring in it's difference than the last...last...f**k feels like eternity. I just finished re-watching the 1st half, even though it led to a 3 zip score due to the overthrow in the end zone, the offense he called yesterday has not been reflected, at anytime during his tenure. (WEEK ONE Preseason excepted).
What game did you watch yesterday? (and they did make it easy for him, for the most part it looked like he had a single option in the middle. But it's a start) And what did he complete, about 70%? Several of the Variety to stand up and deliver the ball before the receiver had gone more than 3 steps. http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/20111...#menu=gameinfo&tab=analyze&analyze=playbyplay Since the beginning of the season, I've been counting down from the snap (a stopwatch is a little too much trouble. But I figure if I get to four, it's at least 4, and that ball should be gone.
The one where they were not asked to protect longer than they should have been. There's a reason they looked that good. So Sanchez completing 70% was because he had extended time to throw, is that your contention? I saw a guy out from under center, and hitting guys in the middle of the field. Two things we had not seen much of this year.
Someone must have stepped in. These past two games are nothing like the previous 5 years or Marty Ball.
Schotty has called 3 good to very good games in a row. anyone who says otherwise is a moron or completely biased. i wanted him fired just as much if not more than anyone else on this site, but i'm also not oblivious to see what's actually going on. I've said this before and it's true ; schotty will always look like the worst OC in the league for stretches and then his job security is questioned and be bounces back and has a stretch of really good called games. unfortunately, this seesaws back and forth. IMHO i think schotty realizes he doesn't have last year's personnel anymore and has finally modified the calls to fit the team's strengths. I think Kerley also has added a new dimension (speed in the slot) that wasn't here when Mason was around and that has aided them.
Nick mangold stepped in. While he was hurt it didn't matter if schotty had called the greatest play in the history of the league there was no time for Sanchez to make a read or a wr to get downfield. Now that the line has inspired some confidence we are seeing the offense function properly.
I am not sure what you are driving at. Are you saying that the pass rush of opponents is less, or slows down, when the QB is in the shotgun? Because I don't think that is true. Or are you saying Sanchez needs less time to throw from the shotgun? Because I think that is maybe marginally true, but balanced by other negatives. Like that is not a formation to run with power from, obviously. What I see is the OL is playing better, at both the run and in pass protection. The opponent must play the run, and this opens up the passing game. They are related. Let's put it this way. If Baxter was the center, if Hunter and Moore were playing like they did earlier in the season, if Slauson was, too, then I don't care where you put Sanchez, they would not have run the ball and they would not have been able to throw much, either.
1. Sanchez threw a pick - that's on him, not on Schottenheimer. That I can agree. I still have some gripe over that playcall however - I avidly hate any shotgun calls in the red zone (especially goal-to-go situation) under any circumstances. This is simply because, Jets are not a potent passing team - meaning this effectively eliminates the running option that should be a valid secondary initiative once the coverage is not favorable for passing. 2. Obviously Jets offense noticeably executed better, especially on the run game. But I have to tell you, yesterday's game calling was quite unlike typical Schottenheimer play calling, on both running and passing plays. (No more boneheaded naked Off-tackle to the left. HALLELUJAH!) As many of us have been griping for weeks (especially me, br4d and Hobbes) Sanchez did attack the deep part of the zone, which in turn loosened up the defense on the box. It's not even like the OL was holding off the Bills charge for ungodly amount of time either. 3. I happen to think that, the offensive showing yesterday was more of an artifact of the ineptitude from the Bills defense, than the prowess of Schottenheimer. Next week's game will be a very good barometer of Schottenheimer. All right - it's hard to win at Foxboro, and I will not gripe about what happened there. All in all, when Pats played in Pittsburgh, their defense could not get off the field. (the same symptom doomed them last night against the Giants.) Let's see if Jets Offense can start firing in all cylinders, and keep Brady off the field. If that happens, I will say maybe Schottenheimer was not the part of the problem after all.
Shotty is incapable of coaching a good game unless he has perfect circumstances.. the o-line fully healthy and playing well, the run game going, the QB on point with his WR's. As we've seen numerous times, if one thing is missing he is completely incapable of coming up with something creative and working around it. These past few weeks the O has been clicking and I admit he has been calling great games.. mixing it up, not being too predictable, limiting the cuteness, etc. Hopefully he keeps it going.
Let's not rewrite history. All I have to do to remember just how terrible this guy is, is go back to the absolute joke of a goal line sequence against the Steelers in the AFC Championship game. That sequence cost us a Super Bowl bid.
i hate schotty until he has good games like san diego and the bills and then i just dont know he is so dam inconsistent
