Brain Schottenheimer:Good at what I do

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  1. IWillPeeGreen

    IWillPeeGreen Member

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    I don't get why you guys hate McDaniels so much, just cause hes an ex-Patriot. The biggest benefit if he came here, would be his knowledge of Bill Belichick's gameplan and coaching staff. There are articles of how McDaniels pretty much used that knowledge to beat the Patriots last season. Kinda like Gruden in the Super Bowl against the Raiders.

    And how could he not be in the least bit better than what we have right now? Brian Schottenheimer isn't a better QB coach than McDaniels.

    The Patriots offense under McDaniels in 2007 was a bit different. He definitely used play action and trick plays a lot more than usually do. Hell he embarassed the Jaguars in the playoffs and Steelers with them.

    Him or Callahan would definitely be better than what we have now.
     
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  2. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    Talent means nothing if they can't execute, right now our talented WRs are dropping routine balls at an alarming rate, our talented QB is making poor decisions and our talented OL can't block anyone. Schotty definitely deserves his share of the blame for this but to excuse these mistakes as just part of the game while only blaming Schottenheimer is silly. Everyone needs to get better if we are going to recover from the shitstorm of the last few weeks.
     
  3. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    I dont hate McDaniels at all, I just think he is one of the worst HCs of all time and has proven absolutely nothing as an OC. You could say all day that he is a better QBs coach than Schotty, that doesn't make it true.

    I hope the Jets learned a lesson about taking NE coaches for the sole reason that they were NE coaches. I'm sure I dont need to remind you that didnt work out so well the first time.

    Callahan? The guy responsible for the most underachieving unit on the team the entire year?
     
  4. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    Yeah, nothing special -- especially when you consider the strong running game he relies on and the plethora of talent around him.
     
  5. The Notorious J.E.T.S

    The Notorious J.E.T.S Well-Known Member

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    Most of these players don't have a history of playing this bad while Schotty has been mediocre at best throughout his career. You guys want to sh*t on McDaniels for how the Patriots are playing without him, well let me ask you this, how are the Chargers offense and Drew Brees doing without Schotty?
     
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  6. plasticsloth

    plasticsloth Well-Known Member

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    Ahem, Phillip Rivers. And Schotty was never the OC there. Only QB coach. McDaniels IMO would be awful. I don't think he ever really did anything special with the patriots considering they had tom brady and company, it's clear at this point that brady makes the offense the way it is.

    On to a more relevant note, I was very intrigued by this article and was surprised that Schotty made such a statement. While I think his playcalling hasn't been brilliant the last few games (lack of running on 2nd downs and redzone), the bashing has gotten ridiculous as the real problem the last two games has been the offensive players and especially Mark Sanchez.

    If Holmes makes the easy TD grab last week, good chance Jets win and the board does not reach the brink of implosion. Plus, the O-Line played rather sub par against Miami and Sanchez has been off target the last few games, missing easy short passes, not hitting receivers in stride and looking like a deer in headlights. I mean 4 fumbles? Come onnnn
     
  7. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Brian was a QB coach for Brees and SD, he wasn't the OC. That is a poor comparison.
     
  8. The Notorious J.E.T.S

    The Notorious J.E.T.S Well-Known Member

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    Not when it is Schotty's only claim to fame. What has Schotty done over the years to deserve this much respect and unwavering protection from some of you guys ( I say some because the majority of this board has seen the light.)
     
  9. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I have seen waht he has done for us, I understand that each year he has been put in tough situations w/ the exception of this year and until recently our O was pretty damn good this year.
     
  10. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    nyjunc is good at what he does.
     
  11. The Notorious J.E.T.S

    The Notorious J.E.T.S Well-Known Member

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    The Jets have averaged around 2 points a game in the first quarter this season. You are satisfied with that level of production from your Offensive Coordinator?
     
  12. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Games are 4 qtrs long the last time I checked and until recently we were averaging around 25 PPG and that was w/ a shutout. I am not going to make crazy decisions based on a couple of games. This offense is a good one, I hope they correct their problems and started playing like they are capable of. brian has to find a way to get them going again, if he doesn't and this continues through the end of the season then I reserve the right to change my mind.
     
  13. Ghost50

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    the good coach should explain to us why his offense failed to produce any touchdowns in 4 games this season
     
  14. Professor Frink

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    The Baltimore Ravens had a good defense before Rex Ryan was the DC. After he left they still had a good defense. Would you guys say Ryan was an overrated DC at Baltimore? If not you should probably give McDaniels props for his role in the best offense in NFL history. That year was between when he had a productive offense and got to the AFC champ game with no weapons better then Reche Caldwell and Jabar Gaffney, and a top ten scoring offense with Matt Cassel starting for the first time in 8 years.
     
  15. theyankees-jetsfan23

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    Schottenheimer! I thought I told you to go make some damn sense!
     
  16. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Ok...So..and...I'm just asking....

    You've never heard of Rich Kotite ?
     
  17. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Don't be a douche.

    McDaniels ran a legacy of Charlie Weis...with better personnel.

    But...Much like the Parcells tree...McDaniels is worth getting for being a fruit r=from the Weis tree.
     
  18. MikeHoncho

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    I wouldn't necessarily say this offense is "bad". Nor would I say it's "good". What I would say is that this offense is underachieving. And that falls on the offensive coordinator.
     
  19. JetsYankeesThrylos

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    Well in your first post you said "why McDaniels he's the worst head coach since Kotite", that's why I said OC and HC are different because it seemed thats what you were basing you objection of McDaniels on, I wasn't trying to be a dick or anything.
    I mean yeah NE has been a good offense for years with and without McDaniels, but so has Baltimore's D with Rex, and look at Rex now, he is still making stupid mistakes with clock management and the team is slumping, the whole team, the D came to play the last 2-3 games, but still got smoked in NE. Rex is still considered a genius defensive coordinator, but as a head coach he is struggling a bit because its a completely different position. Say Rex blows this season and the next and gets fired (knock on wood) would you criticize fans of a team with a struggling defense to be crying out for Rex Ryan to be hired as DC?
     
  20. Dirty6Sanchez

    Dirty6Sanchez Well-Known Member

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    I don't see how you guys can rip on McDaniels, who has consistently put a good to great offense on the field (Denver included)and not rip on Schotty who has been the epitome of mediocrity and predictability over the past three seasons...

    McDaniels is a better OC and would do wonders for Mark Sanchez imo...
     

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