Of course it's speculation lol. All any of us have is speculation. Haley is a second-tier candidate. A first-tier candidate would be Harbaugh or McCarthy. I disagree that Mac has done well. Most of his draft picks have looked bad; Jordan Jenkins is probably the second best pick, and that isn't impressive. Mac has a higher success rate than Idzik, but success rate doesn't mean much when you trade away picks instead of stockpiling them. As far as the signings and trades, Fitz in 2015 and B-Marsh were successes. Carpenter, Gilchrist, and McLendon were washes. Fitz in 2016, Revis, Mo, Cromartie, Clady, and Skrine (though you could argue he was a wash) were busts. Also, the way he handled the Fitz and Mo situations was ridiculous. Had he signed them immediately, so they could have put in the full amount of work during the offseason, things might have turned out differently.
Yes, it's definitely cool to agree to disagree. Think how boring it would be if we all thought alike and agreed on everything. There'd be one post in a thread and 20-30 likes, or "I agree" posts. I like discussing with you for the same reasons. It's interesting and I enjoy "hearing" your perspectives. Regarding Shanahan, he is OC of the Falcons, and they've had a resurgent season that several posters here have credited to him and his offense rather than Quinn. Atlanta has the top-rated offense in the NFL. I'd say that gives Shanahan PLENTY of credibility. I don't follow the Lions, but have seen that they're having a very good season and their offense is perhaps the chief reason. I read something just a day or so that credited Cooter with really turning their offense around, and he sounds like he has a TON of potential, but he's only 32. Unless our team was all young players, I just have doubts whether veteran players would respect and listen to him. Yes, our roster will possibly suck next year, but possibly not if we get the right HC in here to start developing the players. It will almost certainly suck if Bowles is back, as he seemingly is a weak ass "parent" who commands little or no respect from the players. I disagree that they will lose nothing. They will lose a whole season, and possibly ruin all the young players drafted over the last 2 seasons and those who will drafted prior to next season. Just because their record may not be good next season, they could be developing young players, teaching them how to play and win and building for the future. If Bowles is here, more than likely, none of that will happen, and it will be an even bigger freaking mess for the next HC to have to fix, and a year will have been wasted for nothing.
It's always a gamble-- if we get the right guy in that spot right away, we gain a year, like you say. If we hire the wrong guy we lose next year plus another 1 or two years at least. My suspicion remains that our roster is so toxic that no HC could do anything with it this year. The talent is awful, but the personalities are toxic. A guy who is both GM and HC could make roster moves and control playing time could have an effect on this kind of situation. I'm not saying Bowles is the guy--I've seen nothing to indicate that he is--but I think it makes sense to see how he performs with a roster that he has a realistic shot of coaching and at least some chance of having success with. At least then we can make an educated decision.
New Years Resolution for Jets Nation Keep fighting till there are better Coaches and responsible Players
IMO we already know that Bowles isn't the right guy and you can't not make a move for fear of hiring another 'wrong' guy. Besides, we aren't talking about coaching the Jets this year. This season is already over. We're talking about next season. If the roster is toxic this season, then it's because of the lousy job that Bowles and his staff have done, and they created the toxic atmosphere with their lack of discipline, accountability, leadership, and the horrific job they did managing games, getting the team prepared to play, and/or putting the players in a position to succeed..
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...stay-the-course-with-fox?campaign=Twitter_atn Rapoport mentions that Bowles will be back to 2017. From the article: Jets owner Woody Johnson is inclined to keep coach Todd Bowles in what figures to be a crucial, pressure-packed 2017. He did win 10 games in 2015, the injuries and lack of depth hurt him, and so did brutal quarterback play. But barring a change of heart, Bowles will get another crack. Don't be surprised if he does so with a new offensive coordinator. Chan Gailey, who is 65 in 5 days, is expected to either take an advisory role or move on from the Jets in favor of an OC who will be more Bowles' style. Seeing our current roster, Bowles will be fired till next mid-season.
Oh great Plus an OC who "is more Bowles style?" (OMG runs up the gut for no gain and then we kick a field goal??) If its the Bowles style Defense that sucked the Bowles style O will be High School for sure Guess what? Woody loses more golden opportunities to grab more experienced smarter Coaches I hope nobody attends games SMH
Even worse, as bad as Bowles is, if you look at the rest of the staff, the Jets probably have the worst overall collective coaching staff in the NFL.
Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN Sources: Todd Bowles expected back, but he'll definitely be making changes to Jets staff. Don't be surprised if Chan Gailey isn't OC in 2017
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 2 OC notes: 1. When #Jets find a new OC, it’ll be someone who values the TE & run game. Yes, as we have so good TE's.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18386828/head-coach-todd-bowles-job-appears-safe-new-york-jets Schefter
Exactly as I thought. If Bowles returns someone had to be the fall guy, and that someone is Chan. Bullshit move and this team is doomed.
I've seen 3 different big name reporters suggest that Mike McCoy will be fired from San Diego and be the leading candidate for Jets OC. What do you guys think about that?
The only reason the Jets won 10 games last year was because Chan Gailey's offense outperformed and he got career years from Fitz, Decker and Marshall. The vaunted defense let the Jets down in 2015 and self destructed in 2016. So Bowles deserves another chance but Chan doesn't? What a fucking farce.
It makes no sense to me. The only thing I can think of is maybe they're doing it to align with the youth movement. Possibly they don't want to start all these young players with an OC that could up and retire at any time? Idk.
Maybe they are just looking to blow the whole thing up and start anew and the best destructor is Bowles? It's like "if you survive Bowles you can survive anything!"
the patient and his wounds needs to be in the Operating room STAT and they are trying to put Sponge Bob bandaids on the wound,,,,,,,lol
