Only logical reason for not starting Petty this week is that they're afraid the Pats would kick the crap out of him and shake his confidence. If that's the thinking, then I can get on board with that. Either way, this better be Fitz's last game as a Jets starter.
Anyone that is sincerely pulling for the Jets to get beat by Pats this week needs a reality check or they can walk the plank. Take your ball with you too. Lol
Sadly, I'm saying goodbye to the Jets for now. This organization is totally dysfunctional. I have much better things to do with my time than watch this pathetic group. I'm routing for the Patriots b/c they have a great and classy organization.
I am rooting for us to win but if we don't win then I hope we get our asses handed to us and Shitzpatrick throws 5 interceptions.
I hope we lose by 40 and Fitz continues to play like the worst QB in the league. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I'm hoping for the real FitzTragic to show up. If he does, the rest will be a self fulfilling prophesy.
I hate to say it, maybe I'm a bad fan, but I don't really care if we win another game this season. The way I see it, if we were to beat the patriots it would get people all pumped up and optimistic about a horribly coached and horribly assembled football team. The more you lose, the hotter the seat gets for some people in the organization who probably won't be part of the organization next year. Instead of losing with younger players we will lose with a 33 year old QB who duped us into paying him 12 mil
Fitz this year has been dismal, and without Decker he appears hopelessly lost. While I support your sentiment that we want to beat the Pats first and foremost, I think the only reason not to start Petty is a concern that it might destroy his confidence, which is as much an indictment of the horrendous coaching this year in developing the youngsters as anything else. Starting Fitz simply pinpoints how dismal our development of young QB has been, not to mention the total lack or aptitude to game plan by our CS. I always want the Jets to win, but I can hardly bear watching the disgraceful performance of the team on both sides of the ball. At year end, win or loose, Fitz needs to lead the way out of town along with a few coaches and players. This year has been an embarrassment, and it starts with the Vets and the CS.
I've called for Fitzpatrick to be benched, but I would never root against the guy when he's playing QB for our team. I do hope we improve at the quarterback position, but first and foremost I understand football is a team sport. It's about what's best for the Jets, not what's best for any one player or someone's agenda. I'm going to be patient with Maccagnan and Bowles and allow them to build the team how they see fit. I know that's not popular, but like I said before, what's popular isn't always right. I can't imagine firing Bowles after only 2 years. We got 6 games left this season, with 4 of them are against our division. Hopefully we'll get to see some progress and head into next season on a positive note.
Even if a win hurts them in the long run? I can't understand that. It's like winning a battle, but then losing the war because the costs of winning the battle were too high. At this point in the season another victory is meaningless. 5-11 is no better than 4-12. In fact, it's worse because it most likely means poorer draft position. The only compensation and hope when your team has suffered through a season like this is knowing that with better draft position, your team is in a better position to get the talent it needs to help turn things around. We all know that the difference in just 1-2 slots in the draft can make a HUGE difference in the players that are available to your team. It can make the difference between getting a franchise QB and not getting one, or having to give up a bunch of picks that your team needs to trade up to get that QB. It can mean the difference in getting that stud pass-rushing OLB and not getting one. It makes a difference in each and every round of the draft and has a cumulative and exponential impact. The farther the draft goes, it hurts more and more, and there are fewer and fewer players who might be fits and/or that your team likes who are available. Beating the Pats would be a very short-lived celebration, the positives from it would be gone within a week. Further, it can hurt in our situation with such a clueless owner. If the team only finishes with 3-4 wins, Woody might see that Bowles and his CS is the major part of the problem and fire them, whereas if the team wins 5-6 games, even though that shouldn't make a difference, it could, especially with Woody. Woody might not think things are quite so bad with 5-6 wins and might bring back Bowles and the CS and make no changes. If they start Petty and the Jets win 5-6 games, I can live with that, because it would mean that in all probability, the Jets have found their starting QB for next season, or at least know they'll have a competition between Petty and Hack. I can't live with 5-6 wins if Fitz is starting.
Rex Ryan cost the Jets a chance at Mariota because he had to beat the Titans and the Dolphins in the last three weeks of the season. Of course many Jets fans wanted to beat the Dolphins so badly that last week regardless of what it meant for the draft. People would rather win a game that no one will remember a few weeks from now than hit big in the draft and have a decade of success.
You're not a bad fan. You're a great fan. You want what is best for this team in the long run, and aren't about short-term gratification. You want to see this team make the right moves and build a consistent winner, a perennial playoff team. It's sad to me that some fans are willing to sell out and jeopardize the chances for needed change all for the immediate gratification of beating the Pats. Bowles should be punished for deciding to start Fitz regardless of his "reasoning" or "thought processes." He deserves to be fired for being so clueless and cowardly. With this team, CS and owner in this season, any wins hurt the team more than they help. Our clueless owner needs all the help he can to see that major changes need to be made. It would be no surprise at all to see a victory over the Pats elate Woody so that he decides to make no major changes. We also know that he is swayed by personality. Knowing Woody, he could easily decide that he likes Bowles more and to side with him and fire Mac. Now Mac isn't perfect (no one is), but at this point, I think he is the only hope for Jets fans going forward. If Bowles is retained, then 2017 will be a waste and any good/great young players that Mac has drafted will be damaged, if not ruined.
Don't worry, we aren't going to beat the Pats. It won't be a blowout, but it will be just enough of a tease that it will make everyone forget that the current management has picked two QB's in the draft that suck, which is why they aren't playing now. Dak Prescott? Who needs Dak Prescott? >cough- 4th round -cough< Ron
With the power structure now being openly criticized by many, I wonder if Woody revisits the power structure this offseason and allows Macc to have ultimate say in whether Bowles comes back. Instead of having this weird structure where both Bowles and Macc are equals under the hierarchy, Macc should be higher than Bowles and be allowed to figure out the future of the team. Regardless, I would prefer we lose every single game if it means we could actually come back next season with a younger, hungrier, better coached roster. I'm personally tired of hearing Revis say he's old, and Fitz pouting because he got benched.
Ya'll know this the time for Fitzpatrick to make an epic run to 8-8 so they bring him back on another one year deal.
Ron, just because neither of the Jets young QBs aren't playing doesn't mean that they suck. Get real. Bowles has favored Fitz all along. He didn't bench him when he should have to send a signal to the team that that level of play is unacceptable. It's obvious that Bowles is fearful and cowardly. He admitted as much. He's afraid of losing his job and afraid that the veteran players will turn on him if he starts Petty. Bowles is the problem, not our young QBs. They may prove to be problems too, but there's absolutely zero evidence and only supposition to suggest that Bowles isn't playing Petty because he's awful or sucks. Meanwhile, there's plenty of evidence and Bowles own words to support the idea that it's just Bowles cowardice and fear of the unknown. I'm so sick of hearing about Dak Prescott as an indictment of Mac I could puke. No one had a clue that Prescott was going to even develop into a starting level QB in the NFL, much less play at the level he has. There's a reason he was a 4th round pick and every freaking team in the NFL passed on him not once, but 3 times, and some of them 4. There were reasons why Brady was a 6th round pick. The draft isn't a perfect science. It's a crap shoot and the Cowboys got lucky. They're no smarter than any other team.
It would be just our luck for that to happen. If it does, I'm definitely done with this team for good.
There is a condition for people like me.....it's called masochism!!!!! LOL. But seriously, I think knowing who to draft is more important than draft position. Also, understanding that QB is the most important position on the team and having the determination to do whatever is required to move up the draft (or trade) to get your man. Finally, it's realizing that if it doesn't work out, you don't give up, you keep trying until it does. I feel these are strategies that make for successful franchises and it doesn't matter what position they draft in.
LOL We're all masochists, or we wouldn't be Jets fans. That's a given. Knowing who to draft is important, but imo all the knowledge in the world doesn't matter if you're not in the position to draft those players. The team that drafts #3 has an advantage over the team that drafts #4 in every round. There can be perfect players sitting there for the #4 team in every round, but it won't matter if the #3 team takes them in each and every round and the #4 team is unable to trade up ahead of the #3 team. It takes another team being willing to trade down. We all know what Tanny's trading up has cost the Jets. It robbed the team of depth and caused certain positions to be ignored. IMO this team cannot afford to trade up unless it's for a sure fire franchise QB or stud pass rushing OLB. We need every pick we can get. If anything, we need to trade down a time or two. Yes, the GM must be determined and leave no stone unturned, but again, it doesn't matter how determined he is if other teams won't trade for him, or if the price is too steep to trade up. Look at the teams who have given up the ranch to move up to draft their QB. Most of them struggle year in and year out in spite of having a quality QB because they don't have the talent to support and help that QB. Then if the unthinkable happens and you give up the ranch to trade up and the QB busts or can't stay healthy, your team is screwed. Draft position is vitally important. MORE important than knowledge imo. Because the draft is an inexact science and is a crap shoot, a team with higher draft position can get lucky and get players fall in their laps. Look at what happened with Leonard Williams. Think if the Jets had been drafting a pick or two lower that they would have him? They might have even had the opportunity to trade the pick to another team and get multiple picks in return. That's the other thing with having a higher draft position. It increases the odds that some team might want to trade up ahead of a team that's a pick or two behind you to get a player, and you might get a windfall in such a trade. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
