Ummm...Your statement makes no sense. If it wasn't about talent then the draft would only have 1 round...or no draft at all. People would just sign people. There would be no Hall of Fame either...seeing as all talent is equal. Very strange statement...
Why would there be no hall of fame? Wait. Never mind. I recognize I've opened a can of worms quibbling about what talent means (e.g., who had more talent? Jerry Rice or Randy Moss), but let me say it differently: I'd prefer a thoroughly prepared and disciplined team -- teams with good systems that fill roles -- to one filled with all pros.
Mangini's team went to two straight championship games. He may have not been very popular with the media, but he built a solid team.
In the aftermath of Rex Ryan's era, after some reflection of the Jets performance, I have this to say: 1. Game of football is won in ranks and files. [To this day I don't remember which coach said this - anyone got a clue?] 2. One would like to be both loved and feared; but because it is difficult to combine them, it is far safer to be feared than loved if you cannot be both. [Machiavelli] Being a [player's coach] doesn't necessarily mean the coach shouldn't be feared - I believe this is where Rex failed. And, if he can't be both loved and feared, he had to take the 'feared' route - Parcells struck fear into his players. Walsh, through his sly psychology tricks, struck fear into his players. Jimmy Johnson struck fear into his players - and they all won mutliple SBs. Rex? NONE. Now, I am hopeful that Bowles is [feared] among his players, but not hated. [Both are distinctly different.]
If you're trying to compare Mangini and Bowles, you failed. Mangini was a hardass, had no relationship with the players and most of them hated him. Bowles demands accountability, but he evidently builds solid relationships with the players because everything I've read said that they not only love him but respect him. I imagine if you ask those players that love Rex if they honestly respect him, the overwhelming majority would say no. They may respect his knowledge of defense, but in terms of being a HC, of getting the most out of players, having the team prepared, putting players in a position to succeed, developing young players, managing the clock, making adjustments, etc., the answer would be NO.
No grown man is going to fear another grown man especially when he is making more money than said other grown man. Maybe you want to say "respect" instead of "fear".
it's funny how people are equating being early to meetings with accountability, let alone coaching success. if having a pet peeve about the time equates to great coach, then my grandfather could've matched up with Lombardi.. Bowles is a players coach, and that will show in a positive way. I'm betting they will respect him, react to him, and play their asses off for him.....and it will have nothing to do with clock watching..
Believe me - the coaches I mentioned were all [feared]. You can look that up. I didn't like Jimmy Johnson to a degree, since, to me, he was more of a punk and a bully, keeping his [favorite] players insulated from his wrath. But Parcells and Walsh - you can rest assured. Players respected their coaches, for sure - but they feared the coach all the same.
Being on time definitely is a part of accountability. I don't think he's talking about one time, isolated incidents, but rather a pattern. If players don't take their jobs seriously, or respect the CS and teammates it reflects in things like showing up on time, being prepared, working hard, etc. It's just like what happened in NYC after Giuliani became mayor. Dinkins had ordered the police dept. to ignore "quality of life" crimes like jumping subway turnstiles. Crime skyrocketed because it showed that Dinkins didn't have respect for the law. Giuliani reversed that and the crime rate plummeted. They discovered that there was a definite and direct correlation between turnstile jumping and other crimes. If a player is continually late to meetings, then he's probably dogging it and not giving it his all, or doing other things that reflect a lack of respect for his CS and teammates. It's not just about having a pet peeve about the time. I agree that the players will probably respect Bowles, react positively to him, and play their asses off for him, but it will have everything to do with clock watching and holding the players accountable. Not holding players accountable ultimately shows that the HC not only doesn't respect them (because he's not demanding their best), but that the doesn't respect the rest of the CS, the owner, the GM or himself. If you respect yourself, you have high standards and you demand the same of those who work and play for you because you know that high standards, discipline, commitment, responsibility and hard work are the environment that creates winning and success, not lackadaisical, goofing off, irresponsibility and lack of discipline. That's why Rex is a buffoon and will never be a successful HC.
Something funny? Mangini had two winning seasons out of three, the one he didn't was a QB nightmare with injuries. His last year was the Favre year where the Jets were one of the top teams in the AFC until that douche got hurt and told no one. Rex came in, shored up the defense, and took MANGINI'S team to the playoffs. Then, he dismantled it into what it became. I don't see why it's funny. It's fact.
The "knowing your job" part. We've had to dumb things down a few times for certain players. Just hope our roster has enough beans to mater the playbook
hahaha oh man. The same Mangini team that couldnt make the playoffs with Brett fucking Favre but went to b2b AFCCGs with a rookie under center? That Mangini team?
I think the new coach will be much more demanding of his players and expect them to know their jobs before they see the field. So from that perspective I think we will be much better than last year. At least I certainly hope so.
