Just because he is undersized , weak armed and gets spooked easily, no reason to call him a chihuahua. Completely unprofessional.
I'm saying it HAPPENS. Yeah, I'm picking examples where teams bailed too early. That's the whole point! I'm not saying other teams weren't right to bail on guys, but let me ask you this. How many QBs that have been around a while in this league have NOT had down years where people wanted them gone? I can think of two or three guys.
Really? Akili Smith and Ryan Leaf? Let me ask you this, since you seem to have all the answers, how many playoff games did either of those guys win? I'll help you out (again). ZERO.
This is the problem that the Sanchez haters have: they can't find good comparisons for him since the guys whose development he is most similar too early on actually are pretty good QB's if not world beaters. So they try to make the comparison to bad QB's who flopped early on when handed jobs. The problem is that Sanchez is much better than those guys, which is why he is able to engineer 4th quarter comebacks and game-winning drives. Even a fool can see plainly that there's not much difference between Eli Manning and Mark Sanchez first three regular seasons in the NFL at this point. You can argue that the numbers similarity doesn't mean the performance on the field was similar, however it really does. Eli stunk up the joint in more than a few games in his first three seasons. He had a few good games also. He beat a few great QB's in the process and he sucked opposite a few who were sucking on the day also. Even the attitude issues, which may or may not be real in either case, are similar with Giants fans regularly accusing Eli of not being forceful enough or confident enough to lead the Giants early on. Sanchez has one thing going for him that Eli did not: he's done well in the playoffs and at the end of two of the three seasons. That's not an intangible quality, it's real. That the team was worse this season that it was in 2009 and 2010 doesn't change the fact that Sanchez was up to snuff when the team was also. Same thing for Eli by the way when he was young.
He deserves a little more time. I say by year 4 or 5 we should know whether he's the long term solution.
Just to clarify, since I seem to be the one defending him...I'm not saying Sanchez is the next Peyton Manning. I'm saying he's better than this year was indicative of. How many QBs has this team been through? For those of you who have been a Jets fan as long as I have (30+ years) you've seen a LOT. Now how many of those guys had what it takes to win in the playoffs? Sanchez has done that. Also, how many of those guys could you say had the right kind of attitude and toughness to play in NY? Besides Pennington (who had his own issues), Testaverde, and O'Brian (who wasn't exactly Joe Montana himself), I can't think of any. Being a QB for this team isn't easy. In fact, it's probably one of the hardest places to play the game because of the scrutiny our QBs receive (as is clearly evident by this board). The guy got sacked 40 TIMES this year and kept getting up. How many QBs in this league got hurt this year? How many teams went through more than 2? A bunch. We've seen that happen before and frankly I'll take a guy who makes mistakes, but keeps picking himself up and going back for more. And his stats show that he most certainly HAS improved every year. Give the guy some protection (OL went from giving up 28 to giving up 40 sacks), a run game that allows him to use the play action (went from 4th in rushing to 22nd), and a goddamn deep threat and I'm willing to bet all the Sanchez bashers end up as vocal as the Eli bashers are now.
The Jets were sitting at 8-5 this season needing to win 2 out of 3 games to secure the 4th or 5th playoff seed. How did Sanchez perform when the Jets needed him the most?
Exactly as I expected him to perform in the face of three strong pass rushes with the OC and line he had. You need to go to a Pats board and post some. You're spending too much time here. People who revel in other people's misery should do it at home. It's unseemly to barge into people's living rooms and spend the amount of time you are hectoring them. Words of advice from a long life.
Sanchez is 6'2" and 220 lbs. Undersized? Really? Sorry, not everybody can be Roethlisberger. Plus, since when does that matter? Drew Brees is barely 6 feet tall and he just broke Marino's passing record. Weak armed? How the hell would we know since the Jets hardly ever throw a deep ball? Even if we did have a receiver who could stretch the field, it's kinda hard to throw the ball deep when you only have 2 seconds before you get creamed because your RT can't hold a block. Spooked easily? Again, see the above comment. What do you want him to do, stand there and get creamed? Yeah, I bet that would help.
It would certainly reveal Holmes and Plax's "DOGGIN' IT" schtick that the people at home watching on TV don't get to see.
About as well as a guy with absolutely no help can perform under the circumstances. He's one guy. Not the whole offense. Run game sucked, WRs were dogging it, OL can't pass protect...I doubt Brady would've done much more given the circumstances. At least Sanchez ran a few TDs in when there was no one to throw to.
- 6'2" and 220 lbs (yeah...undersized....my butt.) - Certainly didn't look Weak Armed last season when he was throwing those deep passes to Braylon, did he? - Let's see you stand in the pocket with 300 lb linemen coming after you and not even flinch. One other thing : Eli gets a lifetime pass, it seems, all because David Tyree made the play of all plays and got Eli a SuperBowl Ring. And all of a sudden, Eli is this "Elite" QB when he really isn't that much better than Sanchez. He'd be in the same doghouse that Mark is right now if it hadn't been for him getting that Ring. Or worse..he probably would've been traded away long ago..... QB RATING Eli : 77.0 Sanchez : 78.2 Completions/Attempts/PCT. Eli : 301/522/57.7% Sanchez : 308/543/56.7% Total Passing Yards Eli : 3244 Sanchez : 3474 Y/G - Y/A Eli : 202.8 - 6.2 Sanchez : 217.1 - 6.4 Touchdowns/INTs Eli : 24 tds/18 INTs Sanchez : 26 tds/18 INTs Rushing Touchdowns Eli : 0 Tds Sanchez : 6 Tds Oh yeah....No Comparison at all. You should really do your research before making silly statements like that.
Football is a team sport. Individual players do not win games, although Qb's can, as a practical matter, "lose" them through turnovers and the like. In other words your argument lacks proper foundation.
Just wow. I often agree with you about other issues and situations on the Jets, but when it comes to Sanchez... You didn't see any of those nine turnovers, or his running into the end zone for the safety, as unforced errors by Sanchez? None of them? They were ALL the fault of someone else? Your position lacks cred.
Lacks proper foundation, huh? OK let's get some proper foundation... STATISTICS Akili Smith Played 4 seasons, started 2. Threw only FIVE (5) TDs to 13 Interceptions and a completion percentage of 46.6% for his career. 52.8 QB rating for his career. Ryan Leaf Played 3 seasons, started 2. Threw a whopping 14 TDs to THIRTY-SIX (36) Interceptions and a completion % of 48.4%. Career 50 QB rating. MARK SANCHEZ 3 seasons, so far, started all of them. Has 55 TDs to 51 Interceptions. That doesn't count rushing TDs (he had 6 this year and 12 for his career...so bump that TD total up to 67.). 55.3% career completion % (not great, but improving. This year 56.7%.). QB rating = 73.2 career, this year 78.2. Yeah... so there's your foundation smart guy. Nice comparison.
Boomer is a moron. Sanchez improved this year and looked much better than he has in the past. He made a few bad mistakes, but also had to deal with a terribly inconsistent offensive line, and receivers that rarely get separation, not to mention horrible play calling.
