Bold predictions: JD wheels and deals

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  1. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Bucky Brooks really is a moron. Reminds me of when Sean Salisbury was on ESPN. He was wrong about everything too.
     
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    Can't like this post enough.
     
  3. BudJet

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    49rs will never trade for Jackson. He is everything Shanahans offence doesn't want. He needs a accurate passer, good passer on the move, good decision maker. That is why 49rs want Wilson. I don't see this in Jackson.
     
  4. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    I know right? Rotating thru QBs. Never get married to one, unless of course he's a keeper!

    The worse thing that can happen is we get married to a QB who's 'pretty good', but not great. It's really, really hard to move on from winning, even if we're only winning 8-9 games a year.
     
  5. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The downside is that you have to draft a QB somewhere in the draft every year. I think it is a pretty small downside given the fact that if you take enough later round QB's you will always have a competent backup and might get lucky on somebody.

    Those guys you are drafting in the 6th and 7th rounds every year when you already have your guy for the next few years get a lot of time to learn your system and see it in action. They're likely to be better than the average free agent QB at running it if your main guy goes down or you decide to move on before you are certain about the next one.

    The second case, where you decide to move on w/o the replacement in hand, is the one where the last guy wasn't a star and you didn't win a lot with him and you are in a 2 year rebuild window as a result. No point in paying that guy at a premium when the organizational plan is to instead find the next guy.

    It's also possibly after you have finished a SB window, hopefully with a win, and do not want get stuck in a Russell Wilson/Joe Flacco trap of having to deconstruct the roster to keep your QB. You never win a SB after that anyway and you always want to be focused on the next ring not the last QB.
     
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    I get what you're saying, and yes Brooks isn't someone I pay a lot of attention to, but it seems like the Ravens have a blueprint that doesn't absolutely depend on the QB - even if they did change their offence for Lamar. I think it's possible they might look to replace him rather than pay the huge increase in his salary. In that vein, then trading him now and getting a top pick plus more for him makes sense.
     
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    Yeah, it's not what I would do, but I can see a team like Baltimore doing it.
     
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    That makes sense.
     
  9. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    My bold prediction. thursday night Jets will make selections 2,23,31
     
  10. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Interesting. Thanks.

    1.I definitely think it's a possibility that JD would trade up for an OT he likes, but I don't see him doing it for a CB.

    2. I don't think they'll trade Mosley. I think you're overthinking this one. I think Saleh was being sincere that he thinks Mosley will be fine in his system. I don't think the Jets would get a 3rd for him. At his point, with his contract, they'd be lucky to get a 5th round pick, and JD isn't going to create another hole in a thin LB corps for a 5th round pick, and may not do it for a 3rd, unless there was a FA LB or two that he would sign with the cap space he gained from trading Mosley.

    3. While he has shown that he will trade low draft picks for players, I don't he would trade for Ertz, at least I'd hope not. He has a long injury history and only played in 11 games last season. He could probably draft Matt Bushman of BYU in the 5th and Wilson and Bushman already have chemistry and timing. There may be a few TE he likes, but imo only 3 fit what Saleh and LaFleur ideally want in the scheme (Pitts, Jordan, & Bushman). If Yeboah would commit to blocking and work at it, then he could be an option as well. Friermuth, Tremble and Long are excellent TE prospects, but don't have enough speed or YAC ability imo. Friermuth can get YAC and is a very good blocker, but JD would have to take him at #34 or following a trade down in the 2nd round, and I don't see it.
     
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    Very interesting. I really like Crowder, but adding Toney, Elijah Moore or Ronald Moore would be worth it. Not Brown, imo. I wouldn't even consider him before the 5th round.
     
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    1. I agree here. JD loves draft capital. I wouldn't be shocked, but would be surprised if he traded up for an OL. If he thinks that Jenkins, AVT and Humphrey will all be gone by #23, however, I think he should. If not, I think it will be a mistake, possibly a big one. He HAS to fix the OL That could cause him to trade up.

    2. We do NOT need a DE. Sorry, but that's just ridiculous. Fixing the OL and surrounding Wilson with talen should be the #1 priority. Our pass rush could already be very good, and they need to find out what they have in Zuniga and Huff. IMO if Douglas take a DE at #23, he should be fired and not allowed to finish the draft. IMO that would be the worst possible move he could make short of taking a DT there. He won't know any such thing that he can find good guards in rounds 2-3. There aren't many who fit our scheme, and as it is, he probably will have to draft a RT and play him at OG. IMO you reasoning here is totally off base. Next year is the time to take another DE. There will be 2-3 blue chip DEs in the draft and the Jets have two 1sts and two 2nd round picks.

    3. I could see him trading down from #34 if he gets an OL he wants at #23. If the ones he likes are gone at #23 and he is forced to take a CB (or heaven forbid, a DE), there's no way he will trade down imo. He will stay put and take the best OL remaining on his board. There will be a run on OL in this draft and a lot of them will fly off the board in the 1st and 2nd rounds due to so many teams having shaky OLs, plus there are a lot of good prospects in this draft. I agree that we do need a quality RB to take pressure off of Wilson. That's another reason that we cannot waste a pick on a DE in this draft.
     
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    1. I agree. It will be a CB or a WLB, NOT a DE.

    2. I agree.

    3. I agree

    4. Possibly, maybe even probably

    5. No way this is happening, nor should it.
     
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    Dont think it happens and hope it doesn't.
     
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    I'd be shocked if that happened. Some draft guru suggested that a few days ago, but I can't remember who.
     
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    Did you mean 31 or 34? If 31, then you think they'll trade up to #31? What will JD give up to move up 3 spots?
     
  17. Footballgod214

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    Ya, this is a concept that's been talked about for years now...just rotate thru QBs. No team had dared do it yet, with talk of Baltimore being the first one to maybe try it. Lamar is due to get paid, and the two sides are miles apart at the moment. Lamar, no doubt, wants to become the 'next' highest paid QB. Baltimore for the moment, ain't so sure.
     
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    Trading up the #34 to get the 5th year option on their 3rd pick?
     
  19. FJF

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    31. They give 34 the 5th and they swap 6ths. Based on the all powerful value chart
     
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    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The idea is like the almost always go for it on 4th down idea. It has a solid basis to go on but people are just chickenshit scared to buck the conventional wisdom.
     
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