Blow it up! Would you? How?

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  1. TheCoolerGlennFoley

    TheCoolerGlennFoley Well-Known Member

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    If/when we use the $8 million saved this year next year when we really need it this and a whole bunch of other "Woody is cheap posts" are going to look pretty stupid.
     
  2. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    I will make sure I get a coaching staff that is accountable. I will consider draft AFTER that. Starting from GM to HC to scouting department to coordinators and position coaches, you want the very best minds there. Rex Ryan, with all his merits, I think fits better as a DC than HC. He knows nothing about the offense - and it's his 4th year at the HC job. I don't know if this kind of deficiency is condoned anywhere else except at NY Jets. If he is willing to learn some more while coordinating the defense, then I wouldn't mind Ryan as the DC. If he wants HC gig, he can get it somewhere else.

    Once Jets have competent coaching staff that will do their job right, then you can worry about the draft all you want. Disposing the albatrosses would be the first step to go. (Calvin Pace, David Harris, Bart Scott, Holmes -> they all must go. Mangold and Brick -> trade if possible. Leave them if they are willing to take pay cut. Nacho... give him 3 years. You don't want to ruin the precious QB prospect. Let the QB prospect learn the game for 3 years - Nacho will take the beating while he learns. Just like DeBerg took merciless hits after hits while Montana learned behind him.)
     
  3. MurrellMartin

    MurrellMartin Well-Known Member

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    Fire Tannenbaum, Ryan, etc.

    HC'ing candidates would be Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden, Karl Dunbar, Pepper Johnson, Vic Fangio and Greg Roman.

    Front office wise? I don't know. If it's Cowher or Gruden, they'd probably double as HC/GM. The others, who knows. Maybe you take a look at Bill Polian. Maybe Tom Gamble.

    Get rid of Sanchez, Pace, Scott, Harris (or re-work his contract), Pouha (let Ellis play), Slauson, Moore, Howard, Conner and Greene.

    Go from there.
     
  4. hastygreen

    hastygreen Well-Known Member

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    We don't need to completely blow the team up. We aren't horrible but we are looking to be avg without some overhauling in quite a few key spots. Our biggest problem is that the front office simply isn't addressing the talent issues properly. I know we can't draft a stud with every pick, but it would be nice if we actually had/use our picks to address immediate needs rather than doing whatever it is they are doing.

    It was completely unacceptable to stick with Wayne Hunter at RT and not pick any up an OL guy in the early part of the draft. No discredit to Austin Howard but he was a desperation call that didn't have to happen if they had made even a passing attempt at bringing in anybody at all. At the end of the day that's what Austin turned out to be; anybody at all.

    We draft Powell and then refuse to play him, have Mcknight and won't play him and have a FB that can't move the pile. So we have a 1 deep RB core and that guy isn't all that good. I know there wasn't much out there in FA but what do we do? Draft a guy in the 6th and cut him after he showed a tiny bit of something;more at least than we have seen thus far from the RB core anyway. So we pulled an Austin Howard and will probably see the kid Grimes getting some touches before the year is out.

    I'm not nearly as knowledgeable as some of the guys on this board but the Jets have been rediculous with their roster moves the last couple of seasons.
    Rex has done a decent job getting the most out of what he has and I think he can still be a fantastic HC in the league but a few things need to happen.

    1) We need a offensive guru; don't hate Sparano or anything but Rex needs somebody that can come in and coach him up on offense as well as run it.

    2) Gotta sidebuild as quickly and competently as possible. I don't think Tannebaum can do this. Get somebody that knows players in as GM and make Tanny his "cap specialist". Who that is I don't know but it can't be any worse

    3) Stop giving out contracts to guys that don't deserve it and then trying to pinch pennies off guys that do a nice job and deserve the money they do get.
     
  5. Franchize

    Franchize Well-Known Member

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    I wish there was a way Rex could be demoted to defensive coordinator. I think he's very good as far as X's and O's. He just doesnt have control of the team. I'd definitely blow it up. I'd keep the corners, Harris and Coples and Wilkerson on D. On O, I'd keep Kerley, maybe Holmes. Everyone else can go. 1st guy to go though would be Tanny.
     
  6. TommyJ

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    The nosetackle point is dead on balls accurate Thunderbird. I hate being a fan of a team that has the horrible "if only" they had this or that arguments, but having a healthy Jenkins for those two AFCCG's, and I thikn the jets do win at least 1 of them.
    Fuckin' "if only". it's not a guarantee of course, but it's hard not to have felt gipped out of your socks when it comes to Big Kris.
     
  7. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    I'm not saying he is cheap, but he may have thought that he could make it work without spending on skilled position players, and while that strategy may work, you have to use all of your draft picks like the steelers and replace the guys you do not resign with quality.

    So far the Jets have not only given up draft picks which limits the amount of players they draft but they have not signed players that have been able to replace the personnel they have allowed to leave....okay maybe Howard for Hunter was a good move.

    And for the record I never thought Woody was cheap, anyone who puts up the amount of money he did to buy the Jets can't be cheap.:up:
     
  8. Ryan76

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    Really Great Post. Add, my two cents and ruin it a bit. I agree with everything except Hill. I don't think he can catch on an nfl level. Could be wrong. And I was really looking forward to hard running this year after the air attack disaster of last year. I didn't even want to see them throw it all to be honest. Figured Tebow it, jam it down their throat, big defense. Take division and make a run. Well, that was wrong, anyway. Same opinion on Holmes and everything else you said.
     
  9. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    Great post, the only point I disagree with is the Oline, I can see they are giving MS plenty of time to look down field, and if the Jets had an explosive RB like Spiller, they would be holding their blocks long enough for him to get past the line of scrimmage. Greene is just not the RB to make this happen.:up:
     

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