I doubt we can get him for that. There's going to be a few teams interested, and willing to give higher than a 5th.
did you think we could get Lito Sheppard for a 5th rounder....when the previous year, the Eagles were asking for a 1st round pick? Lito is only 27...and is a pro bowler. Sheppard is younger than Ocho Cinco. I'm not saying you're wrong....I'm saying it depends what the Bengals feel his price tag is. He had a shitty statistical year last season, plus he's supposedly sporting a shoulder injury that he refused surgery for (even though the Bengals requested that he have the surgery). I'm thinking...he could be had for a 5th, maybe even a 6th....with escalator clauses attached based on his performance (maybe it turns into a 3rd rounder if he plays a certain amount of snaps...for example). Just my .02
It all comes down to how much interest Ocho draws. If he doesn't draw much, then it will be a possibilty - although I think the Bungles may just keep him if a 5th is the best they can get. I just think he's going to get enough interest to push the price to at least a 3rd. Also, this time around you don't have all the animosity and bickering that was going on last year, so there is no hurry to move him.
I'd have no problem trading a 3rd rounder for him. A 2nd is a bit steep, but if that's what would get it done, it would be an immediate upgrade and a WR who we know has talent. Drafting a WR in the 1st or 2nd round is great but you don't know what your going to end up with. Ocho Cinco has about 3 or 4 more years left in him. I'd love for him to be traded to the Jets.. but would he fit in with the locker room? Johnson-Cotchery-Clowney could be a great 1-2-3. I'd say if the price is right, it's a no brainer to pull the trigger.
I would love to get Chad, if the price was right. Highest I would like would be a 3rd this year and a conditional pick next year which could go as high as a 2nd round pick.
Not worth the headache. He's gonna want a new contract or he'll sulk. He's lost a lot since he was a Pro Bowler; I don't think he's that good anymore. 4th rounder, maybe. 2nd or 1st? No way! If we were going to go with a vet WR, we should of just signed TO as a free agent; at least TO is a good run blocker!
I'm tired of Jet fans being scared of success and scared of taking a gamble to put this offense over the top... With Cutler, I just thought that two 1st round draft picks, plus a 3rd, plus a QB would be way to much but hey...Thats just me. The man is only 31 years of age and if you ask me...He still has a good 4-5 seasons left in the tank at an elite level of play...We want a #1 WR? Well...We aint finding one in the draft before having to wait for WR's such as Maclin, Harvin...Anyone to develope and that could take a good 2-3 years because these WR's coming out of the draft are all pretty raw. The Patriots have Moss, he's 32. He turned his attitude around because he was simply unhappy in Oakland and I'm not making excuses for his stunts that he pulled in Oak town, but I cant blame him...He wanted out of that shit hole. The Bills just took a gamble on T.O, he's 35 and we all know he has attitude problems but one thing about T.O...He never seems to be happy, no matter what. With Chad Johnson...For a 2nd round draft pick? Are you kidding me? We would be getting an ELITE #1 WR, a WR who has put up like 6 seasons in a row with over 1,000 yards recieving and simply had an off year last year because the whole Bengals Offense was a mess. Give me Chad Johnson for a 2nd round draft pick in a split second...Something tells me that he would LOVE playing in New York with the spotlight and fame, something tells me that he wont B.S under a coach like Rex Ryan and something tells me that our Offense could be solid and with a talented Defense...The sky could be the limit for this Jets team. QB-Kellen RB-Jones/Washington FB-Richardson WR-Johnson, Cotchery, Stucky, Clowney TE-Keller With a top 5 O-Line. Wow! We could then draft that TE Pettigrew to go along with Keller...We could draft the best 3-4 DE...Anything with our 1st round pick...
Are you kidding me? Lost a step? The man had like 6 seasons of +1,000 yards as a WR and last year he had an off year because the whole Bengals offense was horrid and it wasn't Johnsons fault...He may bitch and moan about being in Cincy over the past couple of years, but the man ALWAYS shows up and plays with exciting energy each and every Sunday. Go after T.O instead? The man is like 4 years older than Johnson
Ocho Stinko for a 3rd...... that would be nice. Sometimes you need to roll the dice, but if that roll turns up snake eyes, the Jets missed another potential Eric Smith or Anthony Schlegel :0
I absolutely would trade a third for Chad Johnson (I don't think I can call him Ocho Cinco). He's a playmaking WR who was banged up last year and lost his Pro Bowl QB. If we had to give up a 2nd we should still do the trade. I would expect that we would get a draft pick in return. Probably something like a 2nd for Chad Johnson and a 4th.
if he passes a physical (aka...gets that shoulder problem straightened out) and we get...at the very least...a 4th rounder like you suggested, Murrell....then i'm on board. I think a 2nd rounder is a tad steep.....but a healthy Chad Johnson..is a dangerous Chad Johnson, IMO....
He does NOT show up to play "with exciting energy each and every Sunday." That's why he's sucked the last few years. Chad has been on a serious decline the last three years. And even if his season stats from three years ago look good, they came in a couple of meaningless games. He didn't actually have as good a year as his stats may indicate. I say that cause I had him on my fantasy team that year and noticed how erratic his stats were. Doing nothing for three games, then exploding for a huge game against a crap team. It's like when John Abarahm would get 3 sacks against the Dolphins when we were up 30-3, but did nothing when it was a close game. T.O. may be older, but we know he's in great shape and more importantly, he would not of cost us a pick! Chad will cost a pick, he'll still need a new contract and his strengths don't blend into a run first offense as well as TO's would of. edit: and about Rex keeping him in place? If Marvin Lewis couldn't, why do you assume Rex could?
If we could get him for a 2nd we could then look for our next running back in Moreno or Greene in the 1st . D/E in the 3rd, maybe Kruger. Go for our blocking TE in the 4th with Phillips, this is if we could trade down a little, the spot we have in the 4th is a bit high for him.
I doubt he commands a 2nd at this point. It's a league of what have you done for me lately, and last season likely drops his value to anywhere from a 3rd to a 5th. I'd assume we could make the deal for a 3rd, which I'd do in an instant. Gilbert in 1, Greene or Brown in 2, and OG or ILB in 4, and we are in great shape.
Chad sucked the last few years? That had more to do with his QB issues. Chad sucked in fantasy because he didn't consistantly score as many TDs as he usually does. Using fantasy stats to say he sucked the last few years is a mistake.
So you're saying Palmer sucks and that TJ Housh is just that good? Chad didn't decline at all? I personally disagree, but you're welcome to your opinion. Also, I didn't 'use fantasy stats to say he sucked the last few years'. Seriously, please read the sentence properly. I mentioned I had him on my fantasy team three years ago and noticed how erratic his play was. Aside from the lack of TDs, he went through games with out barely getting a catch or any yards.
