Top 10 because he didn't call the plays! Was DC in name only. Bills beat writers must be excited to get inside locker room info from him.
He did call the plays in '11. If you want to get an idea on how he calls plays I'd look up those stats.
The Bills personnel on defense definitely favors the 4-3. Based on what you know from Pettine, do you think he switches to the 3-4 that he is used to, or do you think he does what is best for the personnel (but something he might be a little more uncomfortable with) and coaches in the 4-3?
Nobody knows anything about Pettine's philosophy because he didn't have one. He just ran Rex's defense and "split" play-calling with Rex. Late 2010 and into the playoffs that year Rex took over playcalling completely. It's unknown what that "split" meant after that season. This year they obviously had a falling out so maybe he was taken off of playcalling all together, who knows. Personally I think he had more to do with the day-to-day running of the defense than on gamedays. He's still an unknown as far as his own philosophy/abilties, which is probably a major reason why he took this job - he wants to show everyone who HE is. If I had to guess, he'll try to make Buffalo a 3-4, but once again nobody knows.
The Jets didn't sit in the 3-4 for long stretches. They'd switch up & actually played a lot of 4-2-5. If Pettine is bringing over the same mindset that Jets D displayed last few years then you should expect a hybrid D that won't get locked into 3-4 or 4-3. If your talent really leans towards 4-3 then he'll most likely lean that way also. Jets D schemes were pretty flexible towards their opponents.
Honestly not sure. Its hard to get a grasp on what Pettine is cause he and Rex worked together on the def gameplans for the majority of the time. As a Bills fan, I understand your excited cause you're getting a piece of our defense that may not be elite, but is consistently in the top tier (adding to your team, subtracting from ours). Its just tough to say how much of a voice he had since none of us were there. I do know for a fact he called the plays in '11 cause in '12, Rex said he would go back to splitting the calls with Mike. Some players felt the D was overly conservative that year. I think by the numbers we blitzed at a league low rate that year.
So he did absolutely nothing in 2009 and 2010? They called him the Defensive Coordinator, and he just sat on his hands? I know you didn't say that, but I hear a lot of Jets fans try to downplay his value as a Defensive Coordinator now that he's gone. I do agree that he wants to get out of Rex's shadow to escape this exact type of perception, which is understandable. I still find it hard to believe that he didn't contribute substantially to those very good defenses. As far as 2011, the Jets were ranked 5th in total defense, which is based on yards allowed. They did drop off in points allowed, but it's not entirely fair to judge that in a vacuum considering how much the offensive production dropped off between 2010 and 2011...they dropped from 11th to 25th in offense. Stats rarely tell the whole story anyway. You have to admit that Mike Pettine is a very good prospect for a team, especially the Bills, who in my opinion should have been a top 10 defense this year with the talent they have on that side of the ball. Speaking of that, no way the Bills switch to a 3-4...no way in hell, not with the d-line they have there. Also, the biggest weakness they have is at the linebacker position IMO. Nick Barnett is the only proven guy, really...they currently have a hard time presenting two good linebackers, let alone four. Of course they'll change up looks and blitz more, but it will still be primarily a 4-3, bank on it. Look for the Bills to get a couple of starting caliber linebackers this offseason, still. Picking up Pettine sure looks like a great move by the Bills IMO. Look for that defense to turn around tremendously.
I think their is a good chance that Pettine is a very good defensive coordinator. It's unfortunate he went to the Bills.
Unless the HC is going t deffer to Pettine, I would think Pettine runs what ever scheme the HC wants to run
Why would Pettine leave the Jets and his pal Rex for the EXACT same position with a crappier team with crappier defensive players??? I could see if he was a head coach but he has the same position. That doesn't make much sense to me....
Pettine on Rex: "We're like brothers, brothers that fight a lot." http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/je...lot?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
I can't blame Jets fans for downplaying Pettine. Rex is the defensive genius of the team. He sets the tone for the defense; he's the one who has his defense revolve around having terrific cornerbacks (something the Bills do not have). He's the one known for his exotic blitzes; when to use them and when to play back. It could be a great move. I never said it wouldn't. I just said to temper your expectations cause no one knows how much input he had on a weekly basis. I think Bills fans (judging from what I read) are unanimous in thinking it was a terrific hire, when there is a small sample of evidence that proves he will be. His track record is muddled cause he split the duties with Rex. He has ALWAYS been in Rex's shadow. Like I said, he called the plays in '11 and at the end of the season some players lashed out saying they played a conservative D all yr and Rex decided to go back to splitting the calls with him in '12.
I agree - there was a time when it was believed that Belicheck could not succeed on his own without Parcells. Now I do not for one second think that Pettine is the next Belicheck but I do feel Rex is a little overrated he was not the architect of the Ravens "D" it was damn good before he controlled it.
I would be hopefully optimistic if I were a Bills fan, really, what else is there to be? I'm sure philosophy-wise a lot of what Rex tries to do has rubbed off on Pettine. It remains to be seen how good he'll be on his own. I do wish that he went elsewhere so we could watch the results from a distance. I remember watching hard knocks and to me the dude seemed like major dick head...
The Jets do not have better players and talent on defense than the Bills. The Jets defense has been light years ahead of Buffalo, but not because of the talent. The scheme is what made the Jets successful. Really good players the Jets have for next year: (all accounts state Landry will not return) DL Muhammad Wilkerson DL Quentin Coples LB David Harris CB Darrell Revis CB Antonio Cromartie Really good players the Bills have: DL Mario Williams DL Marcel Dareus DL Kyle Williams LB Nick Barnett CB Stephon Gilmore S Jairus Byrd S George Wilson The Bills have better talent, they havent been managed well. Pro Football Focus did a study of every defensive player, every snap, in the entire league and measured their effectiveness on that particular play. The Bills players on defense ranked 8th best in the league, despite being one of the worst defenses. What does that tell you? It reinforces that talented players, but illustrates the point that they were not put in a position to succeed as a whole by the coaches. The Bills have a lot of talent on D. There's also Mark Anderson, Alex Carrington (the best player on our defense last year), Kyle Moore (got a lot of pressure), and Shawne Merriman (a strong run defender on 1st and 2nd down). They all play in nice roles similar to Jets guys like Kyle Wilson, MacIntyre, Demario Davis, and Mike DeVito. The Bills certainly are NOT lacking talent.
I assumed by now this has been posted, but I didn't see it/am feeling lazy: http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2013/01/mike_pettine_says_he_called_va.html
