I honestly don't know. Mariota would require a couple of number ones. But we are in the perfect position to get a flanker. A Drew Stanton type with a decent offense might just work
You're putting a lot of faith in Idzik to make a lot of smart decisions. Last year was super deep at WR and he couldn't have done any worse.
Yeah but taking a very good WR at the top of the draft when a potential franchise QB is sitting there when you can get a very good WR at the top of the second round would be malpractice. _
Whatever. It isn't BS on any level. Yes, most starting LTs are taken in the first two rounds these days, and more and more RTs are as well, but that doesn't mean they're more important than the QB. What is utter BS and stupid is to say that getting an OT is more important than getting a franchise QB. You deserve the mediocre QBs the Jets have had.
It is BS, you even admit it in your post. Starting LTs are almost always found in the top half of round one. Much like all pro safeties, franchise QBs are hard to spot in the draft and often drop much lower. Sometimes they are taken outside of round one (Tom Brady, Russel Wilson, Kurt Warner, Zack Mettenberger, Andy Dalton, Drew Brees, Derek Carr, Colin Kaepernick, etc.). Not only does drafting a QB involve a high bust rate but putting a promising young QB behind a weak offensive line is an accident waiting to happen. While this team could really use a franchise QB, that doesn't mean that we can ignore reality. With each draft pick we need to take the best player available because this team is not anywhere close to the point that we can swing and miss with our first round picks if we hope to compete.
we cant afford not to how many times has this fan base said give Rex a QB and he'll give us a Super Bowl
I really think O-line is the way to go. Because I'm not IMMEDIATELY worried about the LT position, though, and AM much more worried about the Guard positions (though Aboushi and maybe Dozier could develop nicely), I propose that we trade down and try to pick up two guards and a tackle by the middle of the 2nd. Then we spend the rest of the draft trying to find a developmental QB and a CB or 5. A pass rushing OLB to replace the Pace-Maker wouldn't hurt, either.
We already have a developmental QB on our roster. Hell, we have TWO developmental QBs on our roster. The idea isn't to find a backup QB or a jag QB or a game manager QB or a PS QB. We can get 10 developmental QBs as UDFAs. If this were last year I might agree with you. But it's not. There are 2 potential franchise QBs available this year and one of them might be a criminal. Wasting a 4th round pick on a developmental QB THIS year is a waste of a 4th round pick. Either aspire to go big at the top of round 1 or find a journeyman vet to make our game manager so we can aspire to be mediocre for the next 4-5 years. _
In a year as weak at QB as 2015, I would advocate sitting until the second or third round to find a solution. There's zero estimate for an immediate answer this year. 2014 was a different situation, but that's no reason to panic and overspend. Some people even thought that Tajh Boyd was a prospect.
For me, as soon as the Jets traded for Harvin was the moment that taking a WR high in this year's draft ended. There are so many positions that need to be addressed that at this point taking a WR in the first 3 rounds is the not the best direction to go. Harvin, Decker, Kerley and a developing Amaro, with a year under his belt, is enough talent to win with. Our CB's, even with a healthy Milliner and whomever mans the other side, are a weakness so I think the CB position has to take precedence in this year's draft. My order based on need is; QB, CB, OL, LB. The only areas IMO that have adequate depth to wait until the later rounds in this year's draft are RB, D Line, and WR (Although I wouldn't exactly call it depth as much as decent enough starters.)
I'm guessing point taken? This year there is scant talent at both positions. No reason to spend overzealously for a position that could have been had for peanuts the previous season. This is always assuming that Idzik is gone. I have zero faith that he will find talent in this draft. But why go nuts for a position you missed on previously when the talent isn't there? Get smart?
I'd feel a lot better about taking a shot at a top QB in a year or two if I knew we had a stud 0-line that could not only protect him, but provide a solid running game to take the load off his shoulders. A journeyman QB is probably a better way to go until we get our team built, anyway. How many top QB prospects have gone to bad teams and made them champions? How many built teams that were only missing a QB found that player and then became champions?
A lot of the issues I see with developing QBs nowadays is the lack of foundation provided for those QBs. Sure we can expect the franchise QB to mask a lot of the flaws, but there aren't any Andrew Lucks in this draft.
That may be true, but drafting the best of the rest is still better than the driftwood we have on the roster now playing QB. Vick is not the future and neither is Eugene. Time to roll the dice and hope for the best.
I agree, and I believe the Jets should also grab a QB in this draft. I definitely want a veteran starting next year for us however. Wherever that be Vick, Hoyer, Bradford, or Matt Moore - hopefully we have options. Only way I see Mariota becoming a franchise QB is if we sit him down for a min of 8 games next year, he's not pro ready. That's the only QB, I would draft in the first and even so he has some major questions as well. Winston, no thanks getting him could really set us back.
nobody wants to hear it, but BPA all the way bitches. 2014's execution of concept was questionable, but the idea is still sound for this team at this time, stockpile picks, and choose the best guy available to you regardless of position every time (within SOME restrictions… no DL prospects, we're good…) we have a list of needs to be sure, but in a bit of a paradox that says we shouldn't come gunning for players in one position over every other, rather we should play things by ear and pick the best guy available. Is that a QB? then you take him. is that a LT? take him. Is that WR? take him. hell is that strongside linebacker? then take him.
That's what it's really all about. Some here try to make the BPA concept way more difficult then it is (blah blah if you drafted a SS last yr and the "BPA" is another SS would you take him - a dumb argument to be honest especially if I believe that SS I drafted prior is a cornerstone of the franchise). BPA is all about the player that can contribute and help us win. Some say oh we draft a similar position before, but that didn't stop Rex from drafting Coples then Richardson. I believe the BPA philosophy is that there are several BPAs depending on the circumstances of the team. That's when the draft board comes into play. Plenty of scenarios that play a role.
