Depends on who is there. I would hate for the Jets to trade up for a QB or WR because they feel like they need another one. That creates a whole domino effect of problems if that QB or WR doesn't work out.
I honestly don't mind busting on QBs. The only way we can become consistent winners is to find that franchise guy. Mind you, I'm talking about a legacy issue for my children. I've given up seeing another SB in my lifetime _
Busting on a QB means at least you took a shot on one, which I'm fine with. But to trade up to take a shot, then I get skeptical. Because what I'm afraid of is the new HC will need a QB and that will lead the Jets to want a QB in the draft and sell themselves on one, kind of like 2009. At least this year, we should be in the position to draft a top QB without needed to trade up
Nope. Waiting on a QB that miraculously is there for you waiting is called "Hope" and as we know from our presidential elections, hope is not a strategy. If we're at 3 or 4 and there is a true stud at 1 or 2, you better damn well go up and get him. We may never be this shitty again. Me could return to 6-10 for the next 5 years and be drafting 10-16 and have no shot at that stud QB. Gotta make your move when the opportunity is ripe. This COULD be our year to Suck for the Duck or Shame Us for Jameis. _
No no, if a talented QB is there, you get him if you think he's your QB for the next 10 years. You don't get a QB in the first because your new HC wants one. It's a thin line in my head. I don't think you grab one thinking they can be your future QB, you make that move when you know he will your future QB. Suck for the Duck I'm fully behind. Jameis, no thank you. EDIT: A different way to put it, I don't want a QB where we say "we can win with this QB" I want a QB where we say "we are winning because of this QB"
Yeah I'm a Mariota guy but if I didn't mention Winston folks would attack the specifics of that rather than the concept of my post. If we're drafting top 5, I'm doing whatever is necessary to get Mariota and it's not going to take an RG3 deal to get it done considering Oak and Jax aren't taking a QB but also won't want to be outside the top 5. _
If you draft Mariotta you will still need a veteran Qb to either start or be a backup. Preferably to start because we've been through this before and basically for most rookie Qbs it takes at least 12 starts before they know what they're doing. If you do draft him you are giving up on Geno. And I doubt you can trade him. He will have to be released. Which means you wasted two years on the guy.
I think we just became best friends. This sounds so ideal and even in spite of most QB plans today, I still think it's valuable for a new QB to sit and learn and watch. Also think it will help Mariota in the long run
The thing is you don't want to waste two more years developing another Qb. 4 years no playoffs. The chances of any of these guys being elite are low. Incl. Mariotta. The good thing about drafting a Qb high now is that you don't have to give them a prohibitive 1st contract. You have a chance to evaluate them without killing your cap.
If that's the case Jamies Winston is the most NFL ready QB coming out this year. Has the arm and is already great at reading defenses at such a young age. Maturity issues are there but it's not going to stop him from being a top 10 pick. One of the QB needy teams is taking him, if he grades out similar or ahead of Mariota it should be us.
"Schaub" is the generic term for "veteran QB to hold the fort for a year whilst Mariota is readied to take over". Fill in your own vet. The guy we sign should be a complete stop gap 1 year player with no cap impact for 2016. Matt Moore, Davis, Hasselback, Flynn, don't care. Schaub was a top notch QB 2 years ago and fell off the table. Let him hand off for a year. Or anyone else you want. _
If the Jets can figure out a way to walk away from the 2015 draft with Cooper and Winston I'd be stoked. I like Mariota a little better than Winston but not much. We better come out with one of those two QB's though.
Mariota might turn out to be great but these pre-draft profiles usually blow in retrospect. It's such an inexact science. Here's an excerpt from Geno's, my favorite line is bolded. STRENGTHS Competitive, confident player who can lead a team with his physical attributes and willingness to work on his craft. Possesses a quick delivery, can get the ball downfield or move a team methodically by making quick decisions. Has improved his accuracy greatly during his career, placing the ball very well at every level of the field. Fires throws into tight windows over the middle while also leading receivers open on the sideline and showing touch on fades into the end zone. Generally keeps his eyes downfield and feet moving within the pocket to find a target instead of looking to run. Finds second or third options across the field if first read is covered. Tests defenses with his ability to get first downs and more with his feet, has speed to break off big runs and usually makes the right decision on when to take off. Has gotten physically stronger over the course of his career, is a tough player who will hang onto the ball after a big hit and bounce back up. WEAKNESSES Runs a spread offense almost exclusively from the shotgun, needs work on his footwork coming from under center. Ball will float or sail if his feet are not set or he fails to transfer weight, either in the pocket when facing pressure or when throwing on the run. Blitz awareness is only adequate, will miss guys coming free to his left and right. Will back up from pressure at times instead of unloading the ball or stepping up to make the throw. Seemingly regressed each week, especially when locking on to one side of the field. Did not participate in the Senior Bowl.
He's an underclassman with the same amount of experience that Mark Sanchez had coming out of college. And of course the Parcells rule on drafting Qbs is they have to have over 30 starts. OK Geno did and look at the results! Mariotta's TD to pick ratio is great a lot better than Jameis. And he's a lot better of a kid. Not sure if Winston's success in college will translate to the NFL either. And can he stay in shape.
