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  1. sanchizeqb

    sanchizeqb Active Member

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    Brady Quinn is overrated in the sense that people say that he's a lock at #1 next year and just because he's had one good season with an offensive genius he's suppose to be one of those can't miss prospects.

    Give me Adrian Peterson, Dwayne Jarrett or Calvin Johnson over him any day. So much sick talent at the skill positions in next years draft.
     
  2. hydro51

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    couple things . last year was quinn 1st year actaully looking like a nfl starting caliber qb. the 2 years before that he was a very average player. while expect him to do great this season lets atleast wait till this season starts and finish's before we makw him a lock for the #1 pick.

    Leak will be lucky if he is drafted at all on the 1st day.

    and you should stop listening to people who tell you teddy ginn jr is the next randy moss. the guy still has alot to learn as a wide reciever. he is a great return man. but he is very suspect as a reciever. but your not that far off there is a randy moss like reciever in 07' draft and most likely will be a top 10 pick and thats Calvin Johnson WR Georgia Tech.
     
  3. Coach K

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    good point about Buffalo, id go D or RB just cuz of the prospects next yr at the position. Adrian Peterson in green and white*whipes drool*
     
  4. Coach K

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    schooled :beer:
     
  5. LWC611

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    I couldn't agree more. I do not believe in Gator QBs.
     
  6. ny2dave

    ny2dave New Member

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    Dude,

    you can never plan for next year's draft! What if Quinn blows out a knee or a shoulder? What if we're 8-8? You make the best picks you can at the time. You don't hope to get someone next year.
     
  7. Nesquik

    Nesquik Well-Known Member

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    Did u really think that before the draft or did jaws just brainwash u with that.I like Clemmens, but i dont know for sure whether he will be the best qb in the draft.And just so u know jaws thought that Jay Cutler will be the best qb in this draft, not Clemens.
     
  8. ekaarons

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    would you be surprised if clemens turns out to be an all pro q.b?what makes you think that brady quinn is better then clemens.look at the difference between clemens team and quinns team.if clemens played for notre dame I am sure that he would have done better if not equal to quinn.
     
  9. Ryan

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    You really think Minnesota would have picked him? I didn't think he was too high on the qb list. He didn't really have a good senior year.
     
  10. Jtuds

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    why the hell cant you put the freakin players name in the title so we all dont waste our time looking inside the thread to find out we dont care......are you trying to raise the view count? seriously man thats brutal...
     
  11. johnnysd

    johnnysd Well-Known Member

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    No Jaws thought Cutler was the best of the Big 3 but overall he liked Clemens the best. No, I did not think so before the draft, but after investigating him and watching him play and looking at the scouting reports, I see why he fell, but I also see a franchise QB in the making.
     
  12. hydro51

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    We traded up to get him. the only team i could think of being a threat to take clemens was minnesota. but then i heard a couple anylisis on tv and the radio talking about how high his stock was rocketing. and that quite few teams had serious intrest in him in rd 2. so who knows what team we traded up to avoid.

    in the end we got a next years 2nd rd pick and a clemens for #35. that was a GREAT deal.no big money investedin a qb and a next year 2nd. clemens can go onto to be a huge bust and it wont be a big deal. but i personally he is the future franchise qb for this team.
     
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    i agree with not planning on next year. hell alot peopl feel like peterson is a lock for a top 3 pick. and this is true talant wise.. but he gets hurt every year. who is to say his next injury wont be serious. Omar jacobs can be the poster boy that nothing is a lock.
     
  14. Nesquik

    Nesquik Well-Known Member

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    Peterson only got injured last year. He didnt get hurt once in 04.
     
  15. ButtleMan

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    Yes they would of which is why they picked that Tavarias kid at the end of the round. If they werent looking QB in that round they would have passed on the QB and picked one of the other QB's later (Croyle, Jacobs etc.)
     
  16. MikeSLTJ23

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    You're both right and you're both wrong. Samardzija is a very talented player with very good hands. Brady has thrown some ugly passes Jeff's way and he's made play after play. He was (this past season anyway) a deep threat for Notre Dame, but that does not mean he has good speed. He's not fast at all. He runs routes very well and that's how he's able to create separation from the DBs. He'll definitely only be a possession wideout at the next level. He should be a very good redzone target. He's not really a tweener at all. He's a pure possession receiver with very good hands that runs very good routes. His speed is nothing anyone should be excited about.

    With that said, watch out for Rhema McKnight from ND this year. If he didn't get hurt against Michigan last season, you would have seen an ND receiver go a lot higher than Stovall did. If he comes back from his injury as is expected, you'll see Samardzija is only the #2 receiver on this team. McKnight runs BETTER routes and is much faster and quicker. The only advantages Samardzija has on him is a year under Weis' system already and size.
     
  17. jtrain

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    The reason I said picking clemens was bad was because look who was available at 35

    Jimmy Williams
    Winston Justice
    Lendell White
    Thomas Howard
    Gabe Watson

    Suppose J. Williams turns out to be a champ bailey, lendell white the next jerome Bettis, Winston Justice the next Odgen. Now Clemens could be the next farve or brady but the fact that all that first round talent dropped to us was pointless trading down. We should have rebuilded the o-line with the addition of Justice. The ends will be secure for years If he was drafted. Forget character image its football for god sake its not golf, volleyball, and swimming. football is a rough sport which requires toughness. Justice would have been great. And as for Dreesen shut the ---- Up u puss
     
  18. SuppaMan

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    wow thanks for the asinine post

    and if you actually knew anything about the players, you would know justice played poorly last season (possibly the worst out of his teammates on offensive line), has been in some off-field trouble, and is extremely raw

    watson was not worth a 2nd rounder, the guy's more than likely going to amount to nothing

    williams, well first off he'll probably be a safety in the NFL, and he'll be lucky if he stays out of major trouble within the first 2-3 years...

    white really wasn't the right answer at RB, and many felt he would fall further (yeah im going to believe a medical report from a fucking chiropractor...ugh)

    howard was a bit overrated to be worth going that high, and since the team wasn't going to be built in a year, it was more than worth picking up ammunition next year while still getting a guy they liked, tweeners at the rush LB spot are always available in the first two rounds every draft
     
  19. ny2dave

    ny2dave New Member

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    Ya know what,

    Screw Quinn. What the freak is so great about him? How much of it is Weiss making him look good?
    Besides who knows what our record will be next year, or whether Quinn will suck or get injured. You can't plan on next year's draft.
     
  20. SuppaMan

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    Peterson has a history of shoulder issues. He'll need to stay healthy this coming season and play at a high level in order to lock himself into the top 5.
     

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