Big Ben the Big Choker

Discussion in 'National Football League' started by Ron Mexico, Feb 6, 2011.

  1. GoPats

    GoPats Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough. These things are always subjective anyway, right?
     
  2. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    I'm going to disagree violently. I'd take Big Ben over both Brady and Manning all day, any day. Brady has the balls of a twelve year old girl. Against the Jets in the playoffs he folded like a cheap lawn chair whenever a Jet got close enough to sneeze on him. Hang in there and take a hit to make a play? I think you're going to need someone else. And lets not forget, his team managed to squeak out 11 wins a couple of seasons ago when he was hurt with a guy who hadn't played since high school. Manning, I won't even start on Manning.

    Ben is "seriously overrated"? Get the fuck out of here with that. I hope someday the Jets have somebody overrated like that.
     
  3. Ron Mexico

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    Wow that's such a strong argument, that should end the thread. I don't think I could possibly come up with any counter to that thorough, well thought out argument.
     
  4. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    10-3 in the playoffs. Comes up big in the clutch more often than not. Has better YPA and YPG numbers than a bunch of guys already in the Hall of Fame. Overrated? I'd put his body of work in the last 7 seasons up against anybody's. Of course, he's no Michael Vick, but he gets the job done.
     
  5. Ron Mexico

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    TEAM statistic! QB wins and losses are about as irrelevant to a discussion as starting pitcher wins and losses in baseball.
     
  6. Ron Mexico

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    That alone doesn't mean much considering how much more pass-happy the rules are now in the NFL compared to 20-30 years ago.
     

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