Agreed, but like I said before, that was mainly Curtis Martin. Martin had over 1600 yards that year, while Jordan had near 500. I think there can be a strong case to be made this year. If Johnson breaks out again, which he looked damn good in preseason, he can have a 1,000+ yard year. He's had one every year he's been in the league. Will he reach near 2,000, I highly doubt it, but he will likely eclipse 1,000. Ivory I think will manage well over 500, so a strong case could be made.
Yup. The nice part is, that has a similar resemblance to Ivory and Johnson this year. Ivory will be that power back that kills defenses, while Johnson will be the quick shifty back that loads up the yardage.
That's a good point. He was very underrated. Didnt He catch 70 passes one year? I think theop was looking for halfback combos, but what you brought up is right. Anderson and Martin were great fb/hb combo.
I def expect CJ to go over 1000..plus he will help out in the passing game much more than any other RB we've had..even LT. Were def much more committed to the run now then we were even when Curtis was at his best so it is possibly this trio puts up really good numbers. Plus factor in Geno's running ability.
Good point about Geno. That's something that David Lee and Geno have said they are trying to do more of. Be able to pull the ball in and gain some good yardage on his feet instead of always lookin for a throw away if there is no one open. We might very well see more of Geno using his legs this year. I'd like that a lot.
Richie Anderson was more of an Hback type receiver than a runningback for the Jets, he was only an average blocker and his carries were negligible. His highest rushing total during the Curtis years was 102 yards on the season in 2001.
And as far as the Curtis+Lamont 2000 yard season, Curtis Martin was 3 yards shy of 1700 yards. Jordan had 21 yds less than 500 yards that season. If you want to brag about 2k, I guess that's how you do it, but Curtis was a workhorse that year and at 31 became the oldest player to ever win the rushing title. Respect.
I get the points from all of the posters here, but the thread is just weird. I'd take C-Mart in his heyday over the whole group we have right now, if that's what you mean. I think this group is the most talented OVERALL group from back to front though. So there you have it.
I get that, but I am talking more about a running back combo. A one two punch, or in our case, a one two three punch lol For example, it was epic when we had Thomas Jones run out of his mind all season. Get in the playoffs and Shonn Greene runs for 500+ yards in the postseason. A HUGE reason we got to the AFC Championship game. Just wanted to see what everyone's outlook on this year's backs is in comparison to previous years. Do you believe they will be the best backfield we've ever had as a total unit?
For me this was difficult. (Between 2009 and this year) A) I think that the overall running game of 2009 was great and will be better than what the RB corp of 2014 can accomplish (although not by much) B) Despite this, I think that 2009 had a better O-Line and better blocking. T jones, Shonn, and Leon were good...but the offensive line really made that team (Brick, Mangold, Faneca, Branden Moore, Damien Woody). Therefore. I think that the talent of the RBs this year (CJ, Ivory, and Powell) is greater than the talent of 2009 (T jones, Shonn, and Leon)....but the offensive line isn't as good. Put 2014 Jets RB corp behind 2009 Jets Offensive line....and now you're talking! So to answer your question of a "Better running back corp"...yes...I think 2014 will be one of the best corps...but not the best running game year.
How could you possibly rate this years running back duo the best we ever had when Chris Johnson hasn't even played one regular season game for us?
While so much remains to be seen, whether it be Ivory's proclivity to injury and/or CJ wearing down, I don't think we've ever had a combo capable of taking it all the way on any given play, particularly in Johnson's case, who despite possibly having lost a step or two, still has an extraordinarily explosive burst of acceleration and top end speed. Curtis Martin, one of the all time greats, was an amazing talent with a tremendous combination of lateral quickness, strength, body control, stamina and durability but was never the legitimate "home run" threat that Johnson was in his prime and, albeit to a lesser extent, apparently still is.
I guess we have multiple people who don't like reading the original post. Of course you can't rank them based on this year yet. I specifically said in the original post that do you think this could be the best backfield we've ever had based on what we've seen from Chris Ivory and Bilal Powell last year and what we've seen from Chris Johnson in preseason and knowing his talent level in the NFL? It's the same concept as the many threads predicting the season outcome. In your opinion, do you think this backfield could be the most productive unit we've ever had as a franchise? Why is that so hard to understand? Had you read the original post, you wouldn't be asking this question.
Very good point. Our offensive line in 2009 was simply awesome. Had a TON to do with the running game, obviously. I think we are in good shape with our line right now. I don't think we are anywhere near the level of talent and production we had in 2009, but I like the way they looked in the preseason and I like the youth. Granted, Mangold and Ferguson are getting up there in age, but they are still performing at a high level and we seem to have quality young depth behind them. That's one thing Idzik has really improved on this roster, the trenches. I think with more experience playing together, we can have a very good line in a year or two, maybe even this year if all the stars align. Like I said though, I really liked the protection Geno got this preseason and Chris Johnson and Powell looked damn good around the edge and up the gut. Offensive line seems to be doing well.
If you base it on raw combined rushing yardage, the Riggins-Garrett combo in 1975 beats the Riggins-Boozer combos. However, Riggins missed a lot of action down the stretch in 1972. Riggins missed the game vs Oakland with a playoff spot on the line. The Jets were terrible on the ground in that game. I think the best cases can be made for 2004, 2009 and 2008. I prefer 2009. The 2004 team was unable to run with success in a key game in Week 16. The 2009 team didn't have a letdown like that.
2009 is my favorite year to date. Regular Season: Thomas Jones - 1402 Yards / 14 TD Shonn Greene - 540 Yards / 2 TD Leon Washington - 331 Yards / 0 TD Playoffs: Thomas Jones - 117 Yards / 1 TD Shonn Greene - 304 Yards / 2 TD They combined for 2,273 Yards and 16 TD in the regular season and 421 Yards and 3 TD in the playoffs. I think this year we could surpass these numbers with Chris Ivory, Chris Johnson, and Bilal Powell.
We still don't have anyone I'd call an automatic short yardage move the chains guy. Scott Dierking might have been the best we ever had. I think that might put the Freeman MacNeil/Johnny Hector tandem over the top. None of these guys individually can hold Curtis' jock.
