Probably the 2009 season where they lost to the Jets in back to back games, one to end the season where they supposedly let us win to play us. Then the next week when they played the Jets in Cincy and lost. Revis locked up Chad OchoCinco and onto SD we went.
You have a point about Buddy and apples (Rex) not falling far from the tree, but with Rex being so stupid about the offense, I'm glad he hasn't had much input. Look at what input the dumbass has had - the wildcat, ground and pound, routinely settling for 3 points, and keeping Sanchez around as the starter. He's also the dumbass that kept Schithebedinheimer around and hired Sparano. The sooner Rex is gone from this team, the sooner we have a legitimate chance to win a SB.
Yes. And the fact that he never fought for a stronger offensive line to implement the ground and pound for many years to come is also another one of his glaring faults. How can you say you wanna run and not take care of the runners. These last few years there has been many 1st rounders that could have really bolstered this offense. And the RB's and Sanchez would have been better off for it. Turnstile city. He should have realized that but his ego has got the best of him. It's like saying I can win the marathon on one leg because it's better than the average leg. Yeah maybe your right. Maybe he doesn't have it in him. But with all that football pedigree you would think he would be a better student of the game on both sides of the ball. I mean Buddy did draft Randall Cunningham. But maybe it was dumb luck. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
You're 100% correct. Revis owned Chad, I'm pretty sure he didn't even have one completion in those two back to back games. The home game at the stadium was a blow out, which was really nice cause it was FREEZING that night so I was able to get myself good and liquored up so i didn't feel the cold as much. The second game in Cincy the only offense they were able to generate was Cedric Bensen running the ball. But once Greene had that long run on the toss we had that game won. It's just too bad we ran Thomas Jones into the ground that year as he clearly had nothing left to give us in the playoffs. And once Greene got hurt in Indy that pretty much sealed our fate. The run Game was working too before he got hurt at the very beginning of the second half. If we didn't spot Indy 6 points with Feeley field goal misses, and we had Greene to run the ball and control the clock in the second half we might have pulled it off. We were leading at half time 17-13, and it should've been 20-13, fucking Feeley!
You can't put the hiring of Sparano on Rex, that was all Tanny. The two of them go back to the Parcell days and Tanny thought he'd be a great fit for the ground and pound jets. Now I think it was more a collective decision to bring in Tebow to run the wildcat, with us having the og oc of the wildcat in Sparano calling the plays. I know that was the "football reason" Tanny gave for trading for Tebow, but I really think all parties were equally guilty on that one. I just don't think you can put all the blame on Rex for all of our offensive woes over the years, although he certainly deserves some, if not the majority of the blame as he is the head coach. But Sparano was Tanny's boy, he even called up Parcells to get his take on hiring him, which of course was yes.. Edit: Before anyone calls me out on this, yes I know that Sparano was Miami's head coach and not their oc back in 2008 when they first ran the wildcat against New England. I just couldn't pass up the opportunity to use the phase "og oc".
I'll go one further, Ballz man. There was a shitload of press dedicated to the idea that Tuna was trying to orchestrate the Sparano Haley reunion. Haley committed to Pitt, and the Jets never wavered and committed to Sparano. The next day, the Jets held a few pressers including Rex, and Rex gave far from a ringing endorsement of Sparano. He said he was happy. Didn't sound it. This whole situation stunk. But at this point, if Rex hasn't owned enough cred to deny an OC, maybe he needs to go.
Wrong, at least as far as what I read at the time. It was Rex's choice. Rex wanted Sparano and thought he was the right man. I'm not defending Tanny. I despise Tanny. He was never qualified to be a GM. He's just another way that that bastard Parcells screwed us.
I totally agree. Parcells and Tanny came up with this great idea of Todd calling the passing plays N Tony calling the running plays. We would've had T.N.T. at O.C. I could just see it now. You and I might be the only two crazy enough to have picked up that Rex absolutely hated the idea from jump, from watching his body language in that press conference. As the season went on, whenever a question was asked about Sparano Rex wanted to say "this idiot wasn't my idea you should ask Tanny", but he always gave the P.C. answer and made it seem like he was on the same page with Tanny and Sparano, even though his tone of voice and body language said otherwise. This was why Tanny always came to Sparano's aide in pressers cause that was his guy, his hire. Had we got ourselves into the above scenario where we would've had one guy calling the runs and one guy calling the passes, hell it may have even been better than just leaving Sparano to run the entire offense that season, as its hard to picture having a worse season on offense. But no way something like that would've worked long term. I'm sure Tanny would've made one of them assistant head coach and the other the O.C. We really would have looked like clowns having two people named the Offensive Coordinater of the team. But that was clearly the plan of the reunion. Neither guy would've wanted to take a step back being oline coach or some bs after having just been a head coach in the league. And yeah, if Rex doesn't have enough pull on offense to even vito a guy that he doesn't want to work with, well then he at least deserves some/most of the blame for not learning the offense enough to even say "No, I really dont like this guy, and I don't want him on my staff". I'm not in the fire Rex camp, far from it but he does have some glaring issues as a head coach that he really needs to clean up. First is discipline issues with STUPID penalties being the result. We need to play tough, physical, and SMART football. Rex should not be ok with personal fouls being called, no matter what the reason is. You can have your fellow teammate's back and protect him on the very next play with the two of you legally mauling the asshole to death off of a double team. Colon and Breno are PERFECT for this. Secondly, when Rex is talking too much about how good/great/future all pros/future Hall of Famers the guys we currently have playing on the team are. When he bigs up a player too much he makes it hard to resign them. This blew up in Rex's face with Revis. Hopefully he doesn't do it again with Mo Wilk, Davis, Harrison, Kerley, Ellis, and hell maybe even Geno if he has a great season. (We hope to have this problem with Geno actually.) Thirdly, when Rex is giving other teams even more motivation to beat us because of some stupid comment he made to the press about how great the Jets are, or being actively engaged with a PLAYER on the opposing team in a shit talking war of words battle ala Channing Crowder and Wes Welker. Rex should leave the shit talking for assholes like us. That's what the fans are for, to talk shit to the fans of the other team. When Rex does it to players he just gives their team more of an incentive to play hard. I'm all for beating a team when that team is playing their best football, but it's hard to win when every team has your game circled on the schedule. It's hard having to deal with playoff atmosphere intensity every week. Why put that pressure on yourself? Finally, totally ignoring one side of the ball and only focusing on defense. As a head coach you have to be some what involved in the game plan for the week. Hell, approach it how you would if you were game planning on how to defend our offense. Letting Morningweg know what type of coverage you would call to stop our passing game if you were the D.C. of the team we're going up against. Let him know if you would keep 8 in the box for the majority of the game and dare Geno to beat us with his arm. It couldn't hurt... I'm not calling for his head because I feel we're closer with him then scrapping it and starting over. But other people are already calling for his head because of these exact issues. If you're gonna get fired wouldn't u want to get fired running the offense your way and not somebody elses? At this point in 2012 I would've been thrilled for Rex to have said "After losing Schotty I studied up on the different types of offenses currently being used in the nfl, and used my knowledge as a defensive guy to see which type of offense I like, AND is the most difficult for defensive coaches to scheme against. I'm not looking to repeat the Air Coryell as it seemed to be too cute, instead of just going out and blowing people off of the ball Schotty used gimmick plays that all too often backfired. The Erdhart-Perkins system caught my eye, we get a very good look at it when we play New England twice a year. We would probably use a different version of it then the Pats use, concentrating on running plays more, so it's a more ground and pound style of offense. Had I decided to go ahead and use this system we were looking at Tony Sparano and Todd Haley as possible offensive coordinators. The offensive scheme that I've decided on is the West Coast Offense with the focus on running the ball effectively and winning the time of possession battle. Due to the fact that I'm already behind the 8ball when dealing the offensive side of the ball, I've decided on using the system that I have the most experience with. Baltimore ran the west coast offense when I was there, and while I never went into offensive meetings, I picked up some things here and there over the years. We're going to look into getting Marty Morningweg in here to be our new offensive coordinator from the Eagles.“ Hell even if it's pure bullshit and Rex never even googled the different names of NFL offensive schemes, I would've still felt better if he said something like that at a presser. Sorry for such a long post everyone, I just have a bug up my ass with the whole Sparano hiring. It almost felt like we wanted to take a step back hiring Sparano and then trading for Tebow... Don't even get me started on Tebow!
Not only that, if I remember correctly the game was played on Ocho's birthday. TV cameras caught him on the sidelines in tears. I froze the frame and took a photo of the screen. Gotta find it... I can't remember another big name player's career abruptly imploding like that one did on that night. Nothing good happened for him after that. Bad marriage, arrests, failed attempts to make a team. Pretty incredible flame-out after talking trash leading up to that game.
That was the game that closed out the old stadium, right? If so, I was at that one too. Coldest game I've ever been to (tailgate time factored in as well).
I was there too. Yes, one of the coldest Jets home games considering wind chill. No, the Ocho game we're referring to was the playoff game that followed this one. In Cinci.
You know that the only reason the Jets went to the AFC Championship Game in 2009 was that Rex put his foot down and demanded that Schotty go G&P and use the wildcat more, right? If you think the Jets were even going .500 that year doing anything else you're mistaken. Rex is a vastly under-appreciated coach when it comes to practical decisions. That doesn't mean that he's always right. He shut down Geno last year also and the Jets fell into a pit, however he then responded by opening things back up a bit and they recovered. The ability to make two key decisions on the game plan, including reversing yourself when the first switch didn't take is kind of a strong trait for an NFL head coach.
Definately 2009, the Bengals had a lot going for them, they swept the Steelers, swept the Ravens, swept the Browns, had lost a really close game in San Diego who was really perceived at the time as the favorite. I also have to mention the death of Mike Zimmers wife, the death of Chris Henry (WR), it just probably seemed like in Bengal country that they had a lot going for them, and abruptly, a Jets team which was pretty similar to the AFC North teams that they swept, ended up beating the Bengals back to back games.
Chad is/was a fool. Hopefully he'll be able stay away from hoodrats and other activities that could lead him broke. I also think all that talking he did with Revis was the beginning of his end but what really put the spotlight on him was when he joined the patriots and did little.
