Our starters didn't fare well against Cincy starters. I put zero stock in this. Starters really don't want to play this game or any preseason game. They have a mutual understanding: "I won't Bull Rush you and you won't shove my face mask down my throat. Deal? Sweet. Let's get this over with". It's the back ups and bubble players that play with passion and aggression, like their futures depend on it (just ask Nacho). When Rex left our starters in against Cincy's backups it was nice to see the Jets starters dominate with little effort or purpose. That says a lot. It's to be expected and for once, they did not disappoint. And when our BUs were against their BUs, again, no contest (zero points allowed, 3-4 sacks, 2-3 turnovers). The Jets are really really deep. Just like last week when we gave up 16 total yards to the Colts the entire 2nd half. Every team needs depth to rest players and cover injuries, and for once it looks like the Jets have some. Good job Idzik. (Cincy? Not so much). So in conclusion: It was nice to see how easily our Starters, playing soft and without purpose, handled Cincy's BUs. And it was even nicer to see how our own BUs dominated theirs. Great depth.
I know the truth regarding Hess. That's clearly established. If Idzik and/or Geno don't work out, I'll be disappointed, but not so frustrated as when Hess was running things. Idzik has a good pedigree and has done a lot of good things for the team. They didn't invest a lot in Geno, so if he doesn't pan out, it won't be a huge loss. I don't think Idzik is the type to hold on to players as long as Tanny. Tanny couldn't make changes because he didn't have a clue how to build a team, plus Sanchez was Rex's boy. I really liked Teddy Bridgewater and would have loved for the Jets to draft him, but they didn't. I really like Geno, but as far as I'm concerned, it would have been a win-win situation. I would have been happy with whomever won the starting job, and I think the Jets would have been set at QB for the next 10 years. I wanted no part of Manziel. He has a lot of talent, but is a headcase and between his size, his drinking/nightlife habits, and his playing style, I don't think he's gonna be in the league very long or have a lot of success. I'm already sad for you. You think you have all the answers and are in denial about your attitude.
The only thing good about Leon Hess was that our ticket prices never really went up. Woody banged us with psl's and parking passes, and with the price of your ticket increasing every year. But at least he's trying to get us a super bowl win. Hess never even tried to win until he hired Parcells, and by that point it was already too late... In order to steal him from New England we had to make him H.C. AND General Manager. Parcells had some stupid line like "if you're gonna trust me to cook dinner, then you should let me go to the store to buy my own groceries". Only problem is that Bill Parcells is a terrible G.M. who hasn't won shit when he's picking his own players. Plus he knew around when he was retiring again so he let the team get into cap hell in order to sign free agents to cover his horrible drafts. As long as he still had some cash for the next season or two to sign more over priced free agents he was ok. Then when he was finally out of room to spend he got really worried about his health and called it a day with the Jets and then again in Dallas with the Cowboys. I actually give the freaking New England Patriots credit for never caving into his demands to be the G.M. When he was kept in line and given solid drafts and free agents to work with, he made it all the way back into the Super Bowl. He came close with the Jets in 98, but he sold out the team's future to win now, and he retired before he had to become involved with rebuilding the team. He let some poor sucker get stuck with that job. And he never even got close with the Cowboys because by then all of his favorite free agents were either over the hill or retired.
It's amusing although not surprising to see how the delusional Sanchez fanboys have gone from, "just wait until Mark wins a superbowl next year somewhere else!" to ,"look how great Sanchez is doing, he might win the backup job on the Eagles against two rookies". In his 2nd year Geno already looks much better then Muck ever did. Haven't been this giddy about the prospect of watching Jets football without Muck in a long time. LETS GO JETS!
http://espn.go.com/blog/cincinnati-...s-rex-ryan-blitz-gate-firestorm-morning-takes "Blitz-gate firestorm"????
They attempted to have their back ups go to town on the banged up secondary and are going to complain? They attempted passes on 43 of 56 plays and didn't expect them to come after them? Someone need to slaps the stupid shit upside the head.
I'm rapidly developing a major dislike for that stupid shit offensive coordinator and his inflated opinion of the Bengals offense. I hope we have an opportunity to face them in the playoffs and slap the shit out of that overrated red headed step child QB. If the idiot takes solace on the fact that they beat a patched up secondary on a missed called with no real pressure up front then he is more delusional than smart. He also neglected to note that our second and third stringers pushed theirs all over the field. I cant wait to see when the Steelers spank their asses this year 2 straight ad bring Cinci back to earth.
I believe when it's all said and done, when Rex is off to another team that this will be pointed to as the main reason for his downfall. For a coach lauded for all his defensive, if I may, genius but a completely hands off approach to his offense is what kept the coach from having the success that was expected in NY. At least at this point he could at least try to learn that side of the ball make some executive decisions and not allow it all to be made from the OC seat. The new GM might have a hand in this but even when Tanny was here the OC pretty much ran the whole thing. Sad really. He could have been a contender. 'A quarterback has never completed a pass when he was flat on his back. We must hit the QB hard and often. QB's are over paid, over rated, pompus bastards that must be punished.' ~ Buddy Ryan Maybe this has been ingrained into him so much that he is incapable of siding even with his own offense lest he betray this very mantra. I know it sounds silly be he will put his own FB on a pedestal before he would a QB.
I am pretty sure Favre DID complete a pass on his back once after tripping or something like that. I remember the play. Rex has a philosophy of the opponent scoring less than us, which is very very different than the mindset of score more than your opponent. It is why our offenses continue to be crippled. in Rex's mind the offense' job is to not make mistakes and let the defense win the game. That philosophy has worked twice, and Rex was around for both occurrences.
I like the bad blood that's been developing between the Jets and Bengals. Intra-Division rivalries are easy to rationalize. But random ones like this make things very interesting, especially if both teams are battling for WC spots or collide in the Playoffs again.
It's more about not having a franchise QB and adjusting to our strengths vs weaknesses. If the offense can't prove that it can score, we shouldn't put full stock in it. It's not like Rex tells the offense not to score or care about scoring. That shit is silly because the offense still needs to put points on the board, and the more, the merrier.
That begs the question, what regular season loss was more humiliating? 49-9 Jets losing to Cincy in a year when they were predicted to win only 4 games, or a Brad Smith Thanksgiving night dagger touchdown returning a kickoff in his socks, during a season where Cincy was playing well?
The constant ground and pound crap has been holding the Jets back more and more since Rex was hired. Much of the rest of the league has been trying to evolve their offenses to suit the rules changes to benefit their teams, Rex is going in the opposite direction, and the weak choices for QB have only helped that cause. His ideal offense is one that eats up as much clock as possible keeping the opposing offense off the field and giving his defense fresh legs every game. He's bragged many times about TOP. Hell, the Jets were top 5 in rushing attempts for the entire league last season with an OC who Philly fans complained would never rush the football. Think that's a coincidence?
Yes but it didn't lead to a Super Bowl. At least not with the Jets. In my opinion he got lucky with Dilfer. But he had an amazing TE. His dad's efforts did. And the teams his dad was on could pass when they wanted to. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Haha good point. And of course, in terms of recent rivalry and meaningful games, we hold the trump card with the Playoff victory. That win is impertinent to 2014, but I'm sure that it's one of the catalysts for the apparent bitterness between both teams.
Just as much as it is coincidence that we had a rookie QB running the offense. Let's be real. Sanchez was never really a passing threat. 2009 & 2010 he had very few passing attempts when compared with most other QBs in the league. He also had the most success those 2 years. When Sanchez was asked to do more in 2011 & 2012 without an amazing running game, he turned into Mr. Turnover. He couldn't handle it, so it made sense to run the ball more. Rex Ryan already admitted that he wants a high powered passing attack, which is why he brought in MM. In the beginning of last season, MM opened it up doing mostly passing plays, but Geno began to struggle so he had no choice but to feature the running game more. With newb or shitty QBs, you have to run the ball more. I'd be willing to bet that MM calls way more passing plays this season as opposed to last season. Rex wouldn't have bothered bringing in a pass specialist as a coach if he wanted to stick to ground and pound. If we didn't run the ball as much as we did last season, I doubt we win more than 6 games. You can't evolve your offense to a high powered passing attack until you find yourself a franchise QB. Sanchez was fools gold because of 2010 and if anything THAT held us back more than the running game / GNP style of play. You also don't HAVE to run the ball to have more TOP. Completing passes in bounds and forcing 3 and outs has the same effect. Uhhhh, the Bengals were 4-12 that year. Yeah, they were totally playing well that year being 2-8 when we faced them and dropping 7 in a row before losing to the Jets. LMAO!!!!!
Sanchez was a quarterback in a pro style offense in college and had the ability to make every play on the field, projected well. But he was not ready to take on starting duties, because his experience in the pro ranks was little. Rex came out of the gate praising Sanchez during a preseason when the guy could barely compete, no competition or veteran starter was provided and Sanchez was thrown to the wolves. He had a few promising games early but it was clear that the Jets were gambling on the ground game carrying them to the playoffs. The same thing happened in 2010, except that the rest of the team was improved. Sanchez sort of improved, but he looked more like a deer in headlights most of the time. When I say "decisions at the QB position", I'm not just talking about player drafting, which he only has a part in. I'm also talking about development. I do think that the Jets could have developed Sanchez into at least the level that Flacco has achieved. They instead decided to put a color band on his arm and bring in a baseball coach to teach him to slide in the middle of a rookie season. That's really some Mickey Mouse Motherfucking Shit. It's a HC that thinks he can get away with paying minimal attention to his offense aside from telling them a base definition of their jobs. What Rex Ryan says in a press conference means almost as little as your overt homeristic blather on this forum. He's never really taken the press seriously, even though he tries to massage their egos now and then, and basically puts on an Aw Shucks performance with a tiny shred of honesty thrown in. I judge Rex on what he directs his players to do on the field. And what he directs his coordinators to do as well. You're making a winner's bet that MM will call more passing plays, even of it's one percent. MM, in the past 15 years, has never come within 40 rushing attempts that his offense attempted in 2013. That includes 2 years when Michael Vick ran 100 in one year and 96 in another. One would hope that he's not going to revert back to 1997 form and run the ball 500 times, but I guess were lucky that Steve Mariucci is retired. You can't find a franchise quarterback unless you are committed to developing one. Calling Sanchez fool's gold is fine I guess, but I have a feeling that if you have the balls to continue your weak homer act on this forum 3 years from now, you'll be saying the same thing about Geno just to continue to protect the extension of your self worth that has become the Jets. One would only hope that you learned something about the actual game of football by then, though. Might want to put that on your bucket list. Awww sheeeit, Barqs finally got me on something. For some reason, I remembered that game to be in 2009. Gold star for you, kiddo.
