Belichickens Bills gameplan in the hall of fame is the biggest crock of shit ever. The Giants won that game because of ball control and a missed kick. The Bills had the ball for 20 minutes...basically a quarter and 5 min. In that time they scored 19 points. Some hall of fame game plan
Belichick has shown an ability to adapt through the years. A defensive team to an offensive team. His defenses has been a 4-3, 3-4 and a hybrid of the two. On the offensive side, you have seen a spread offense, 2TE offense and no huddle offense.
I think Bill Bellichcik is a very overrated coach, he specializes in defense? Couldn't stop a nosebleed! But it all falls on Brady, and oh they won 10 games with Cassel? Easiest schedule ever. Plus you give Rex Ryan Tom Brady, we have a dynasty...... but he is still a better coach
Ouch. I am happy to say that I have only seen one of those guys live, and it was the one on the left. Still, I did see the guy on the right on TV on his wedding day ...
BB always specialized in Defense. Then he got a HOF caliber QB & shifted his team into an offensive power house. Look @ where the contracts are on that team. Also this double TE offense that's ripping the league apart all started form BB Pats. If Rex landed a HOF QB like Brady would he be able to convert the Jets into a similar offensive powerhouse? I seriously doubt it based on how badly he's managed offense so far. Would Brady under Rex even get the chance to show the league he's a HOF QB?
Really? What makes you think that Rex is capable of building a dynasty, even with a HOF quarterback? The Jets have been declining pretty severely over the past 4 years under his guidance as a head coach. If you match up Brady with his 2009 or 2010 defense, sure you might be able to get a Superbowl or two out of it. But why should I believe that his team wouldn't decline over the following years when he actually has to fit Brady's expanding salary under the cap, provide Brady with offensive weapons, and rely mostly on UDFAs and draft picks to keep the rest of his talent up to par (as Belichick has been forced to do for quite some time now). Ryan hasn't shown the ability to maintain a talented team for any length of time, even with a bunch of big name signings. How can you expect me to believe that he could maintain a talented team relying only on no-name free agents and later than average draft selections?
There one thing your overlooking? How many years has BB been a HC compared to Rex? Did BB win a SB in his first 4 years as a coach? NO. In fact he was fired from his first HC job and was rumored to be getting fired at the end of that season. until Brady step in. Plus if I'm not mistaken the Pats D was in the top 3 the first SB Tom Brady won.
I'm not overlooking anything. I'm not the person who started a thread comparing the two coaches. Any comparison of Rex to BB is ridiculous. Lets wait until Rex gets fired, then gets to 5 SBs and wins at least 3 in his next HC job before we even try.
The whole point of this thread is would had one at least one SB if he had Brady. BB is so overrated it sad. He a defense guru so they say and he D has sucked for how many years?
Please go back to your Pats board. Why, what makes BB - the so called defensive guru - become an offensive genius? Did he turn his DC playbook upside down or something? He didn't lose his abilities as a Defensive coach, he got an elite QB. And the only thing Beli did was recognize to load up on the offensive side of the ball with talent and let the D diminish since the team could ride high scoring points to wins. Stop - you don't like Rex cause he calls it like it is. End of story.
Belichek has been a genius in making sure that he starts Brady at QB as much as he can. Plus, he "battles" the Jets, Dolphins and Bills for the division title every year. The Pats remind me of the Braves. The things that Belichel gets overly praised for (defense and stockpiling draft-picks) are, in actuality, not so impressive. On O, the Pats generally run a gimmicky/gadgety type offense and usually get smacked in the mouth when they play a physical team
As was pointed out Rex is a young HC. BB is still in Cleveland at this point and looking terrible. As for comparing them all in, I don't mean to to take anything away from BB because he is a great coach, but to ignore all the luck that has fallen upon him during this is impossible. Wide right against the Bills, tuck rule, no one picks a QB in the 6th round expecting him to be this, the slap on the wrist punishment for spy gate, Lee Evans dropped TD. The list goes on. The media is worst at this. They are incredibly "forgetful" when it helps them build the legend of BB.
Unfair comparison. Tom Brady made Bellicheat...Without him, he is a nobody...When Brady retires, he hangs it up 15 minutes later.
Which team won a Super Bowl without a bunch of luck? 2011 - The Giants benefited tremendously from Kyle Williams' fumbles in the conference championship game, and beat the 49ers in overtime 2010 - The Packers only got into the playoffs by beating Chicago in Week 17, when the Bears had nothing to play for. Then they beat the Eagles, whose Pro-Bowl kicker missed two FGs. Then Jay Cutler got injured in their game against Chicago. 2009 - The Saints took a bunch of cheap shots on Favre, who could barely walk by the end of the game. One of the dirtiest games I have ever witnessed as a fan. They won the coin toss in OT and won the conference championship game with a FG. 2008 - The Steelers needed a 100 yard TD return by James Harrison, and possibly the greatest Super Bowl catch ever by Santonio Holmes to win that game. 2007 - The Giants were lucky just to get into the playoffs, then they had the infamous "helmet catch" and Asante Samuel's should-be interception. 2006 - The Colts had to come back from a 21-3 deficit to beat the Patriots in the championship game. Their Center recovered a fumble in New England's end zone for a TD. Manning had two passes against Chicago in the Superbowl that should have been intercepted, and weren't, meanwhile the Bears turned the ball over 5 times. 2005 - The Steelers needed the most accurate kicker in NFL history to miss a FG to beat Indy. Then they beat the Seahawks in a game that many people feel they should have lost. Not to mention all of the luck that Rex Ryan had in his first two seasons as Jets HC (Playing the Curtis Painter led Colts in Week 17, Nate Kaeding's 3 missed FGs, ridiculous comeback wins in 2010 that can be largely credited to bonehead decisions by the other team). If we are comparing Belichick to Rex Ryan, Ryan's luck should be relevant too. The only reason you see the Patriots as being exeptionally lucky is your perspective as a rival fan.
He was not a great coach in Cleveland but what he did there shaped a franchise. The Baltimore Ravens. He brought together the front office and engineered a trade in 1995 that netted them another 1996 fist round draft pick. Guess who became that pick?
If his success was down to game planning and not the quality of the personnel how come his defense at the Pats has been mostly awful? BB's success is at least 50% down to Brady's brilliance - I am not saying he is a bad coach but he does get an incredibly easy ride due to having a HOF QB - which the Jets have never had.
Overrated ? I would make the argument that Brady is the one who is (slightly) overrated of the two ... - And in some ways I think Brady knows he wouldn't be were he is without BB. Which also helps explain all the times Brady has been willing to restructure his contract, compared to ex. Brees, who really thinks way too high of himself ... Also remember in the year where Brady was injured BB made Cassel look like a superstar, and where is Cassel now ? In the end I'm not saying Brady isn't a sure Hof QB, however in my opinion, BB is the main reason he (Brady) is destined for Canton, whereas BB is headed there regardless ... Just my 2 cents ...
