All the stats in the world mean nothing until he shows it on the field and with 2 games against Suh and 2 against what ever Ryan dreams up I will continue to doubt he improves at all this year.
The offense will be a better product this year with or without Geno. The position needs to be "MANAGED". Play in favor of a stout defense. This is why the Jets should commit to a true Ground n' Pound attack, although it seems they will remain committed to throwing the ball over 30+ times a game (a mistake). I imagine how well Pennington would have played with this offense, of course missing #28 in a big way. Heavy running attack and the hidden dagger (masterful fake) PA pass Plays to the advantage of time of possession and a formidable defense
Decker and Marshall isnt an average duo? Thats silly. They're at least that. Using stats is a terrible indicator of how good these 2 are. Decker almost had 1000 yards with the worst QB in football throwing it to him. He's an 1000 yard receiver when he has good QB play. Marshall was clearly hurt last year, every year before that he had 1000 yards. Sometimes I just think some fans downplay the Jets, so it hurts less if they dont play well.
I think the internal clock in his head is far too slow. I think Geno at best can be average, he has a long ways to go - I think he ends up starting for us this year as well - I agree w/ you I just want Geno to be more decisive with the football.
you are splitting hairs. if you want to say johnson is better then Jackson or vice versa then fine. in either case, im not sure how you rank the jets over either team. this is a cop out. you cant ciritcize me for calling us average, claim we are top 5, but then refuse to rank the WRs/Teams. im not giving roddy white the benefit of the doubt, im acknowleding that julio jones was a beast im nto giving victor cruz the benefit of the doubt, im acknowledging that odell beckhamm was a beast calling our wideouts top 5 is absurd. even more absurd to claim that then refuse to rank us in terms of other teams wideouts. said we were average. i listed 13 teams i felt were better. you are you to debate that we are better then any of those 13. you debate which of those other 13 i rank over eachother. if that isnt muddying the water i dont know what is. if you think we are top 5, list your top 5.
Not top 5 =/= average. I'm going to get into a debate with you because I think you have the most warped view of evaluating players. I dont believe there are 16 better WR duos in the NFL. Miami and NE are worse for one.
I don't think they are top 5 but I think they will be top 10. Quoting their stats from before they ever played together and when they both had injuries doesn't prove anything other than you will say anything however ridiculous to try to win a point in an argument
that was on the coaches, they did not allow him to throw. I cannot blame Geno for that game, he can be blamed for many moments through his 2 years but it is unfair to blame him for that game.
I am not cherry picking anything, I am not backing Geno. Just stating how he wasn't allowed to play at home vs. Miami and he was at Miami. even a week later at Minnesota he was allowed to play and played very well after that first INT.
Good luck!! But, really, what are you going to show? Mistakes any 2nd-year QB (and many more mature QBs) make every season? Smith wasn't any better or worse than the rest of the offense, only he didn't get hurt and miss time (not including West Coast meetings). I mean, if you're going to exhaustively re-examine the offense, make sure you critique the line play, the play calling, the receiver routes and blitz pickup. Make it more than an "I hate Geno lowlight reel..."
He should have never been allowed to play again after that first Bills game and the three strainght interceptions and I'm sure if Ryan had his way he never would have.
Hmm, a 77 rating LAST YEAR was bottom 5. That said, the greatest QB who ever lived and played for the Jets (not named Joe Namath) had an 80.3 rating in 2008. And Sanchez never cracked 79 and went to TWO AFCCGs. So, really, Geno's 77 is hardly something to whine as hysterically as you are. AND it was a gain of about 10 points from the previous year.
Wow, I like this post: You state some shortcomings and make specific desires for improvement. That said, I think Smith can be better than average...and I think most objective people do. Otherwise he wouldn't even be in the discussion at this point.
He could be above average, to be honest, was never a fan of Geno Smith to begin with. IDK if he can be a great QB - small chance, I hope he does though. He's got great physical talent, and the dude can take a hit too. He's very durable. His issues all stem mentally, IMO, if he can get rid of the ball faster he could be a better QB.
I had trouble posting it here because of its length and pictures, so I put it up here. http://www.ganggreenstream.com/ I made that website with the intention of blogging about the team, but I underestimated how much time and effort it would take to do it regularly. I guess it came in handy for once. As for your point about the play calling, I agree that MM did not do him any favors. His situational playcalling was not good at all and the scheme itself was not tailored to the quarterback who was running it. The line play was adequate for half of the season, then tapered off, however I addressed a couple of Geno's deficiencies in dealing with the rush that are independent of the line's play. He did not regularly ignore open receivers, which was nice to see, however he spent way too much time invested in his first read. His mental clock is too slow for me, as someone else pointed out. Now, I have a bit of optimism that he can improve in the spread offense, but I think this team as currently constructed can win more games with Fitzpatrick at quarterback based on the tapes of the 2 I watched from last season. And yes, as you said, some of the mistakes I pointed out are ones that any 2nd year QB will make, however I also showed ones that are instinctual and are harder to fix.
1) going to a an afc championship has nothing to do with the individual play of the quarterback. 2) sanchez was terrible, syaing geno was similar is not a good thing 3) in 2008 the rules were much different. an 80 in 2008 is not nearly the same as an 80 in 2014 a 77 rating is terrible. that really isnt debateable. he was 29th out of 32 quarterbacks. it IS something to whine about. he played awful
