As Usual, Jets Get it Wrong

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  1. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    Having Rex Ryan on staff will go a long way in convincing a top GM to come to the Jets.

    Not having to canvas/interview/hire a new HC is a BIGASS headache out of the way. And if Rex had been fired, he'd be the NFLs top HC candidate out there anyway.
     
  2. Endlessly Counting

    Endlessly Counting Well-Known Member

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    Truthbetold

    Eli/Sanchez is the one bad fit in this story, you are correct.
    And the fact remains that we have to see if Rex responds and changes the way Coughlin did; if not, I agree, he's out.
     
  3. Endlessly Counting

    Endlessly Counting Well-Known Member

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    This is a viewpoint that hasn't been voiced yet, but its right on. Maybe not the top candidate, but he'd get a lot of interest. And they key is getting players, anyway.
     
  4. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    Most doubtful since RR was voted the MOST over rated HC in the league :sad:
     
  5. DbaJets

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    I grasped it fine. I'm arguing there are more positions than top GM's, therefore they can dictate terms. There are 32 teams, but definitely not 32 good GM's. Good ones can certainly be picky.

    And this is BS, yes, they must overcome adversity, but why would a gm in demand accept a position where there's a "roadblock" not of their own creation from day one?

    If the Jets want to win soon, they likely will pursue someone who already was a GM, and has a stellar track record. That individual will be in demand and will want full control. And this is what the jets need to move away from the perceptions of being an amateurish organization, which they are.
     
  6. ArmandJ

    ArmandJ Well-Known Member

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    Oh please. A new GM who comes into this situation and makes something out of this year's mess will be here for a good 20 years. Especially if Rex coaches us into the playoffs.

    But hey, let's blow everything up just because you want to. GREAT IDEA.
     
  7. Barcs

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    If by FOR YEARS, you mean it happened once or twice during his reign as HC, then yeah. It's happened for years!!!

    The only reason for hating Rex is his personality, not ability to coach. Don't get me wrong, Rex has made some mistakes, but I'm the type of person who thinks that you blame the person directly responsible, not default to the guy in charge, just because it's easy.

    Fire the QB coach. He is responsible for the lack of development for Mark Sanchez. Sparano also failed to design a system that works for him. The problems are all on offense. If these same problems were on all sides of the ball, you could start looking at the head coach, but it's strictly on one side and it's fixable. With the defense that Rex helped build, we don't need a high potent crazy offense. We just need one that doesn't commit so many turnovers and puts up 24+ a game. 17 per game is unacceptable. We need better offensive coaches and a better QB squad with proper weapons and tools brought in to match. Do what the Colts or Seahawks did. This draft needs to be all offense except for linebackers. I'd even consider trading down our #8 overall for more picks unless there is an immediate impact position player available, but it's not looking like that for QBs. The more picks, the merrier.
     
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  8. wildaces

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    May be a ploy to kidnap Decosta. Not to mention, the new GM candidate can negotiate the right hire his own staff. Nothing is set in stone until the season starts.
     
  9. TheJetChase

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    Yeah by the players.. How many players have gone on to be quality head coaches in the NFL?
     
  10. Ralebird

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    As a new GM coming on board I'd be happy to have Ryan there. It's kind of a no lose scenario; the new guy gets some time to produce and he can decide in a year or two if Ryan is the guy to do it. If the scenario is the same as now in 52 or 104 weeks the new guy gets to swing the axe himself.
     
  11. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    Holy shit. They kept Ryan because they are going with Sanchez in 2013.
     
  12. Jon_Snow

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    Since Woody has said unequivocally he wants Rex back next year, I don't think he'd hire a GM who would fire Rex. Woody could easily say he still wants Rex at the end of next year too. I don't know too many quality GM who want to join up with the owner dictating who will be the HC.
     
  13. Endlessly Counting

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    Unlikely

    No One knows the outcome on Sanchez at this point, least of all Woody
     
  14. bigbucks24

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    I thought Polian turned down the opportunity to talk to the Jets about the GM job.
     
  15. cval

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    Guys look around the league most successful teams the coach reports to the owner not the GM.

    We need a GM that can scout talent and have good drafts. Leave the coaching to the coaches.
     
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    who are u replacing rex with? lulz

    rex ryan >>>>
     
  17. NYJFan10

    NYJFan10 Well-Known Member

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    The Jets aren't the only team to fire a GM and not a coach (or vice-versa) this offseason, fwiw.
     
  18. allan1

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    When Mike Ditka took the Bears job he was told point blank that Buddy Ryan is the defensive coordinator, you have no authority to fire him...make it work.

    And it did
     
  19. JetBlue

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    there are more GM positions than existing good GM's who are in them, but that does not equate to there are more positions than qualified people who could be great GM's once given the opportunity.

    the skill set to be a great NFL GM isn't exclusive to the current 7-10 GM's that are in place now, and it is absolutely ludicrous to intimate that of all the 3 billion human beings on the planet, only 7-10 have the ability to be great NFL GM's, and thus the other 20 teams will never be able to find someone equally as great. just stop and think about what you wrote, the inanity of it is bright as day.

    just because the other 20 teams haven't hired great GMs doesn't mean there aren't 50 or 5000 guys who could do the job exceptionally that just haven't gotten the chance. and that is why no qualified candidate would ever pass up -- the opportunity is rare, not the amount of people that are available to fill them.

    all GM's work under parameters dictated by the owner. the idea that having to stick with Rex for a year or two would put off a GM candidate is asinine.
     
  20. ajax

    ajax Well-Known Member

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    --- wrong thread, sorry ---
     
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