you actually dont though junc, you understand how to badger and annoy people but have very little understanding of the actual game. you fall back on things like calling stats fantasy stats and saying that afccg appearances are ultimately important but being innaccurate on completed throws is inconsequential. and your a douche on top of it all. you come in and shit all over the thread, then claim to be a ken obrien fan at the end of it? wtf is wrong with you man? im not deflecting, i am telling you that you dont know wtf you are talking about.
please top embarrassing yourself and move on. I understand your hatred, I'd be annoyed if someone else made me look silly al the time too. Just move on, debate w/ posters you can keep up with.
at this point i actually could move on, there are enough people on the site at this point that see through you and understand that you have a bit of knowledge but nothing to be looked up to. and that your only real purpose here is to argue with folks and keep threads moving long long after they should have been dead and buried. and it will never stop with you. there is no saving you. there will always be a new topic for junc to take the opposing view on and beat into the ground. its been that way for 10 years and i am confident will continue for many more years. keep arguing semantics we see your debates for what they are worth, not much.
just stop it, don't discuss football w/ me if you don't like me. Any objective person can see I destroy your weak arguments EVERY time you try to debate with me. I wouldn't rub it in if you didn't act like such a jerk to me. Who cares if I know more than you? this is all supposed to be fun but your irrational hatred of me prevents you from having fun w/ me. Move along, I won't miss you. There will always be people to argue over this nonsense with.
Not to be a contrarian, but I haven't seen anything that he's written or said that demonstrates he has any knowledge of NFL football. All he does is throw contrarian viewpoints at the wall and hope one or two of them stick long enough to get someone to argue with him; it's not as though he even checks to make sure what he's writing isn't complete nonsense. For example, in this thread, he tried to argue that Kenny O'Brien played behind "good" offensive lines when every Jets fan over 30 years old knows the Jets offensive line during the Joe Walton era was universally accepted as one of the worst in the league (and the main reason why the Jets couldn't get to the Super Bowl). He's just arguing for the sake of arguing.
2 know nothings ganging up against me. Hysterical. and one of them continuing on about the OL, you can't make this stuff up.
Yea, I do remember that and it was unfortunate that the pounding he took took its toll on him by the end of his career. Despite what others have said here, the Jets O line was poor during most of O'Brien's tenure here.
For those that never got to see him play, and therefore have to rely on the opinions of others, Kenny O'Brien was a very similar (but not as good) QB to Drew Brees; similar style, similar abilities. Picture Drew Brees if the Saints had the worst offensive line in football.
i gave up discussing football with you long long ago, somewhere in the herm edwards kc days as he drove them into the ground and you continued to fawn over him and say how great he was still after continually proving otherwise. i simply make sure you dont bamboozle others with your jibberish. and i have been doing it for quite some time and quite a few posters understand how you work at this point. once upon a time you had much of the board bamboozled. not so much anymore. id love to not engage you but you are in every thread doing just what unhappyjetsfan outlined above. and i jsut cant sit here and listen to you blow smoke up peoples rear ends.
the fact that you think Herm drove KC into the ground tells me all I need to know about your knowledge of this game. You are clueless but keep attacking me, it's the only way you stay relevant on this board.
Me? You don't know what you're talking about, and you know it. <---- me likey! I am for the most part not a contentious, antagonizing prick; certainly not on the level of some others (present company excluded of course) : )
You are more subtle about it but let's not pretend you are innocent. I don't care either way but the few times I give it back people shouldn't whine.
No one's whining junc (again with the assumptions ). Better yet, wasn't the "You don't know what you're talking about, and you know it" awesome?
the truth comes out in the end... i dont come here to be relevant on a message board. obviuosly its something that you are interested in though. its a message board filled with a bunch of dudes wasting time, there is no such thing as relevant here. all of it is irrelevant.
all of it is irrelevant, all of it is a waste of time. I agree there, first sensible thing you have written. congrats!
