$14 million? Even in his best years, JD was never worth $14 million, let alone for 5 years. This was just a BJ for Boras.
i meant sox fans in general. maybe i have a bad perception of red sox fans because with all of the sox fans i know, i cant even enter into a conversation about arod with them without hearing stupid comments like that.
I hear "Gay-Rod" quite a bit. then there is the pictures of him with the purse running to first and slapping the ball........ ...then there is the picture of Brokeback Mountain with him and Jeter..... ...but other than that, no. Me neither.:wink:
If he goes to the red sox, they WILL NOT keep manny. Mark my words. I'd much rather go against a-rod than manny any day of the week.
Why wouldn't they keep Manny? With Schilling's $14 million coming off the books, even if they keep Lowell, adding say $30 million for Arod would amount to paying $16 million. Then in three years when Manny's contract is up, the payroll goes back down. For a three year window with the pitching they have and the young players providing some flexibility payroll wise, why wouldn't they take three all out shots at titles?
This is what people don't seem to understand. Teams like the Sox, Yankees, and Mets are all going to spend money. Lots of money. More than is warranted. At the end of the day, he who dies with the most toys, not cash in hand, wins. A lineup with a heart of Papi-Manny-ARod-Lowell would be absolutely ridiculous. With the other guys they have, plus the pitching staff, they are unbeatable. I love how most people love to just parrot what they read in the Daily News or Post, or whatever newspaper is telling them ARod sucks this week. Anyone have access to his pre-GYC postseason numbers? I know they've been posted here before, but I don't feel like looking for them.
or nyjunc or most other Yankee fans until this past season ...... Anyway he's not going to the Sox. He's going to OC. No pressure and great weather. He will excel with the Angels and because of it he will reap the benefits. I thought of something though, it's against the rules for him to have any ownership in the team but is it against the rules for say his wife or daughter?
ARod is a whiny bitch, has horrible sportsmanship, more than likely a juicer, horrendously overpaid even under his current deal, and would take some choking-down for me to accept. Mike Lowell, in contrast, was a throw-in player in the Beckett-Ramirez deal, and has earned every penny of what was then considered a lopsided contract. He's also a real decent guy and probably doesn't get enough credit for bridging the Anglo and Dominican/Hispanic sides of the clubhouse. Two other points: First, even if the Red Sox had no interest in ARod, they'll negotiate and work with Boras to puff-up the market for him. Boras has such a client stable, that they would be foolish to further limit his market, after the Yankees' recent statements. Second, even if I thought the Sox were interested, it would be idiotic for any team to sign any player until the Mitchell Report is released. That list will immediately reduce the market value of any player whose name is on it - ARod included. As a last, and unrelated, point - ARod and Boras are dicks for releasing this information on the night of the clinching game of the World Series. Absolute dicks!
You assume too much when you assume the Red Sox have any good feeling about Boras at all. He screwed them twice in a year with Drew and Matsuzaka.
If anyone was screwed in the Matsuzaka deal it was NOT the Sox, it was Boras. Only $52 million is actual salary that Boras gets a cut of. The Red Sox deemed Matsuzaka to be worth $103 million to them, but Boras only gets his cut on half that. Although the Drew deal was probably an "unoffical" supplement to the Matsuzaka deal. To Sundayjack, why does it have to be Lowell vs. Arod? I think Arod vs. Lugo is the more likely scenario, in which case it's not even a question.
You mean, the guy who got the W in Game 3 of the World Series, and the guy who hit the grand slam in Game 6 of the divisional playoffs? You're right. They're probably pissed. Look, I cursed Drew a hundred times this season, but I have to credit the guy for coming through when he was needed most. Your point on Matsuzaka doesn't even make for serious discussion anymore. Theo and Boras have had slathered each other with man-goo in the press for well over a year now.
While it didn't ruin my night, this alone should be reason enough for the Sox to tell them to take a hike. If anything this prooves once and for all that ARod is nothing but a selfish POS whose only concern is making sure he is not out of the headlines. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if he paid the NY Post photographer large sums of cash to make sure he took pics of the girl in Toronoto to ensure he's on the front page of every paper in NY.
Don't think that Julio drove me any less crazy that J.D., this season. The lineup would be incredible. At $200+ million, it should be. I'd be a little concerned that bringing ARod and cutting Julio - a pretty well-liked player - might be subtraction by addition, and piss-off players like Manny and Papi. I have to wonder just what Theo and Knothole Gang thought they were getting with Lugo, but I'd like to see if he can squeeze out another 30 points on his average and just a bit more power before we unload the entire Budget for the State of New Hampshire on ARod. .
With Schilling, Clement, and even half of Lugo's contract coming off, the payroll goes from $146 million to about $120 million. If you add $30 million for Arod, it's up to around $150 million. Basically the money is a non-issue. You keep it at about that level for two or three years until Manny's $20 million comes off and get a cheaper LF, preferably a defensive type. That way you get three years of a "super lineup", have a bat to replace Manny when his contract is up, and maintain relatively the same or a lower payroll than you've had. I understand the other issues like the chemistry and such, but that aside, it's as close to a no brainer as I can think of. And as I said, I think there's enough leadership in the clubhouse that they could handle it.
