I was bored. Conf calls this am then...nothing. Felt like killing time. Mind you--I'm not one of those junc haters dumping on him at every post--junc doesn't bother me like some of you guys. He knows when he's trolling and when he says silly stuff. Sometimes I just like pointing it out. Not to disagree with him, because everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just to point out the silliness. Here- watch. If he wasn't hurt I said. If he wasn't hurt we sprint into the playoffs and win our first SB since 1969. There's no way you can disprove that. Therefore, in my opinion, I'm right. _
why would I admit something that isn't true? Your last sentence shows me you either a)don't actually read my posts or b)can't read. I hope it's a). Never once did I call Herm great but he did a good job for us and I appreciate that, the typical Jet fan back then(the same ones who bashed Chad and now Mark) would say he sucked and that just isn't true so like I have never called mark great I also never called Herm great. I discuss reality, I am not a typical whiny Jet fan. I do like "junc-a-mania" though. Can someone photoshop a hulk-a-mania shirt w/ "junc-a-mania" and make it green? maybe we can give out a badge to all my fans.
guys play hurt every week, Favre played hurt every year. he doesn't get a pass. even when supposedly healthy he looked nothing like the 2009 version b/c he never wanted to be here, we basically held him hostage for a year.
Obviously the board will go on but I'd like to think it wouldn't be as fun w/o me here. Like me or hate me I feel I do make the place more interesting and we are all supposed to be here for fun so hopefully I help make it more fun.
Better production from the QB increases the team's chances of winning. How can you be a football fan and not know this? Conversely, terrible production from a QB in a game can still lead to a team win. Flacco threw for 34 yards in a playoff game in Foxboro and the Ravens won. Did he have a good game? According to your blissfully narrowminded view of football, yes. According to the rest of the football viewing public, no. He was terrible and a huge hindrance to his team's chances. Similarly, Mark's poor production throughout his career was generally a hindrance to the Jets chances of winning any particular game, one which the team did overcome about half the time.
Funny thing is, I like junc and I think some of what he says has some merit. SOME of it. Not the metaphysical hypothetical we could have been undefeated but for stuff. _
you do. sometimes you grind my last nerve but the board benefits from having you here. i also like the junc-a-mania i hope someone does that, it would be funny.
:rofl2: no one understands the position better than me on this board. so when did Mark throw for 34 yards and we win a playoff game?
i agree, he does say quite a bit that has merit, some of it sancho related and much of what he posts outside of hte hot topic stuff i agree with. he loves to get into these debates on the hot topic things though and he does get way way too involved. he was that way with herm, i never got involved in the pennington stuff too much and never ever opened up the schotty sucks thread but i understand he was a big player in that thread too. and now we are here with mark. soon it will be another topic. id have to look back and see, these topics and threads will go on for years, i wonder if there have been any years since hte herm days where he wasnt involved in an epic topic and fighting against the world and hte typical whiny jet fans.
You're wrong. Playing hurt is something he always did. Playing injured incapacitated him and made him ineffective. If he had the same arm weeks 12-16 that he did week 1-11, the New York Jets are 2009 Superbowl Champs. I'm surprised at you. Really I am. Woody and Favre made a deal with the devil that season--nobody held anyone hostage. The only one who held anyone hostage was GB by not trading him to Minny or cutting him and allowing him to go to Minny. Or any team in the NFC North. The Jets were a 1 year way-station negotiated by BOTH sides and anyone who believes differently is naive. But Brett Favre the man and the football player could have been playing touch football against his grandmother and he would have run through her to win. To say he didn't give it his all is insulting to the intelligence of football fans everywhere. The man never trained hard and even less so towards the end of his career--to say he didn't train hard or give it his just plain sophistry. I'm surprised at you. _
The funny thing is if people actually read what I wrote they'd understand. People think b/c I back Mark that I think he's a hall of famer, they think b/c I backed Herm I think he was Vince Lombardi, same thing for Chad. The reality is I properly evaluated all of them. Herm did a good job for us, mark was good for us, Chad was good for us but in these discussion things get lost b/c people think that if you don't say these board whipping boys are the worst then you must be saying they are the best.
You are wrong on both accounts. He may be a little hyperbolic, but he certainly understands the game and the QB position. Some folks have a warped sense in expressing said understanding. You just need to understand that. And not let it bother you so much. End of the day, does it really matter if some one is right or wrong on the internet? _
no pass from me he built his career on playing through pain. He played, he gets evaluated on the way he played which wasn't much different from when he was playing healthy early in the year. Favre came here b/c he had to. GB wasn't trading him to Minny, this was Favre's way of eventually getting to Minny and sticking it to GB. The man was busy giving Packer opponents info on the packers to help them beat GB rather than getting into his Jets playbook. That's not someone who wanted to be a Jet and was giving his all. On Sundays he was trying to win but a huge part of winning is from Monday through Saturday and I don't believe he was preparing the way he should have been. certainly not when he is busy giving info on GB to their opponents.
Total agreement on this one. Favre was just winging it. I don't think he cared at all if we won or lost the games. Sadly, there are Jets fans that accept Favre's complete indifference to the team while they spewing hate and disgust at Sanchez who gave this team everything he had. Our fan base is a collectively weird bunch.
Whether he gets a pass from you is irrelevant in the ethereal world. He's not injured and we win the Super Bowl. Fact. Of the metaphysical type. _
