which of our RBs averaged 5 YPC in 2010? Hilton is like Holmes on steroids. A threat to break a big play any time he touches it. :rofl2: 3x better. The way Jet fans overrate the talent on those teams, you guys act like we had the '85 Bears D and '89 Niners O around the QB. You know 2013 Wilkerson wasn't on our 2010 team, right? No one from that team was anywhere near Mathis. Their safeties were better than ours, we had the best corner but Davis is on cro 2010 level(Cro 2010 wasn't very good), etc... yep, he was lucky enough to be on the greatest teams in the world. ask Brett Favre w/ an easier sched and no Brady how easy it was to win that talent. that last sentence is the problem, you use stats to determine whether a player played well. those 2 games were probably his worst 2 not best 2 but it's hard for you guys to see that b/c it wasn't on the stat sheet.
Sanchez has "developed" into a bad player. -overthrowing wide open receivers -indecisiveness -doesn't flow through his progressions. -crappy body language on the sidelines He needs a change of scenery as much as the Jets need to cut him. His play in the playoffs is ancient history. He's not that player anymore.
Umm ... he was a top 5 corner in the league. You had our two corners, Cincinnati's two corners and Champ Bailey. Davis couldn't sniff his jock (now or then). We were the best team in the league until FAVRE HURT HIS THROWING ARM. Did you even watch that team? You know we were all alive when this happened right? I've quoted exactly zero stats. I really don't have to because, on its face, your argument is so clearly wrong on almost all levels.
Mark played well that game. We had a huge edge at the skill positions. Huge edge. Luck is throwing to a bunch of nobody's. Our O-Line was superior as well.
I think the overall takeaway here should be losing in the divisional round vs losing in the conference title game isn't much different. I don't see why we give Sanchez extra credit or try and compare him to Luck because the Jets beat the Pats in the playoffs 3 years ago.
Yeah, It's clear there's an agenda when someone says the Colts 2013 o-line is equal to that of the Jets 2010 o-line. One unit is viewed as a weakness (particularly the interior) and the other was viewed as a strength.
We'll have to agree to disagree. Our talent far exceeded what Luck had offensively and defensively and on special teams. I would say our coaching was better too.
STOP. Right. There. What have you seen from Sanchez in the last 18 months that allows you to post such a thing?
No he was not, he was decent and nothing more that year. He was worse than Lito Sheppard the year before. no we were not the best team in the league, we rode a creampuff sched to an 8-3 start then Favre collapsed. He played that final 5 games the way he played most of that year- throw the ball up for grabs and hope someone catches it. The man made his career playing through pain, he played so no excuses. The only way you can come to that conclusion is to look at #s, he had 93 and 102 ratings in those 2 losses but we didn't score in the 2nd half at Indy and only scored 3 in the 1st half at Pitt. Ben had a rating in the 30s but Ben made plays to win. ben had a good game but most people think he didn't b/c of meaningless #s. Mark was MUCH better at SD than a week later at Indy. yep, why would anyone want to play for the right to represent their conference in the Super Bowl? our OL wasn't nearly as good as many people think in 2009 and it was significantly worse in 2010- still good but far from great. Indy was on par w/ us. do we forget Wayne Hunter was starting that NE game? he hasn't played in 12 months and I don't put too much stock in one bad season where we had the worst healthy skill position players in the league. w/ quality talent he has shown a team can win big w/ him. Something never shown w/ guys like Rivers, Romo, Schaub, Cutler, etc...
For guys jumping in late, this is junc primer: 1. Defense statistically looked fantastic over the years. It wasn't all that great in reality. 2. Sanchez sucked real bad statistically. He wasn't all that bad in reality. 3. SANCHEZ WINS!!! 4. Or it is defense's fault. 5. Every other position prior to last season graded very well statistically. Not so in reality. 6. Sanchez had by far the worst supporting cast in 2012 - so what he did is fantastic. --------------------------------------------------------- 7. Peyton Manning sucks 8. Tom Brady is not too bad on the other hand. ==================================================== Stop wasting your time, folks. Read this, and skip over. You have seen all of his arguments here.
I saw him play in August - he was lousy - just like he was a year ago, for a whole season. Were you out of the country?
It doesn't matter how many elite players you have on D. It matters how you play as a unit. Revis was the only elite player, correct. And your right about Cro that year. 2011 and 2012 were his best years as a Jet. He wasn't bad that year, but he wasn't all that good either. Right around the same as Lito the year before. But we had elite run stuffers in Pouha and DeVito. An all around above average lineman in Shaun Ellis. Quality safety play in Pool and Leonard (until he got hurt). Our OLB's were exceptional against the run. It was very hard to move the ball consistently on our defense in 2009 and 2010. We finished 2010 ranked 7th overall against the pass and 2nd overall against the run according to football outsiders. If we didn't have such a bad first half (on both sides of the ball to be fair) against Pitt in the Championship game that year, we are probably playing the Packers in the Super Bowl in a rematch from earlier in the season. A game that was one of Rodgers worst of the year in what was a dominant season for him.
If his wife would just let him on the interweb at home, he wouldn't have so much pent up stupidity on Monday...
