I can not count how many times we have WRs wide open and Sanchez does not see the field very well. Thats his problem, he can not see the entire field and make snap decisions based on what is there. Keller was wide open in the end zone and Sanchez decided to pass the ball to Holmes who was about 5 yards short. If he passed the ball to Keller, it was an automatic TD because no one was within 15 yards of him. Thats the sort of shit that makes me mad. This is year 3, when will he get it. Will he ever get it. We shall see, but for now, he is a liability as far as football smarts and decisions. QBs either see the field or they don't. The ones that do are great and the ones that don't are going to be nothing more than game managers.
Since the ravens game he has not looked comfortable in the pocket that misses Keller td is a perfect example of his problem, he made his decision before the snap, he locked in on LT and threw it even tho he wasn't open. If his first look is covered he panics and starts to move around. The Holmes TD he almost did the same thing, he saw Holmes at the last second even though he was open from the start.
Your point is well taken, but let's not forget that Sanchez was without Mangold (and passing behind a rearranged O-line, affording no protection) and therefore took his share of lumps in recent games, including a broken nose. It took him most of the first half to get that out of his mind, I believe. That said, I agree with his vision. And I'm not just talking figuratively, I'm talking physically. I've never been a fan of drafting a 6'-0" QB. It's damn-near impossible for anybody at 6'-0" to see over some of these super-sized linemen nowadays. I was all for Joe Flacco or any other Vinnie Testaverde-like, taller prototype. It's possible El Guappo just cannot see the field very well once he sets up in the pocket. That would also explain why he starts to move around if the primary isn't open.
Yes but that was not the thread quiz. I don't advocate that we should trade Sanchez, we have made our pick and have to live with it, but I have to say that I had expected more from a 5th pick after 2 1/2 season. He is still progressing so hopefully I am proven wrong and we have a top qb in a few years. I have to say to Sanchez defense that he has handle the ny media and the first 2-3 yrs of nightmare coverage better than I could imagine + he does seem like he perform as well or better when the heat is on.
Are you really claiming that Sanchez is better than Manning, Rivers, and Brady???? :rofl: You may be right about Henne but who even mentioned him? Schaub is better than Sanchez. So is Fitzpatrick. Hell, so is Dalton at this point in the season. Sanchez has played lousy this season. Stop making an asshat of yourself by denying it. :rofl: Nice try, dudes, but Sanchez didn't "win" 4 road playoff games all by his lonesome unless you're also claiming that the Jets' stout defense, good OL, and strong run game had absolutely nothing to do with those wins. If those wins are all on Sanchez, then why is he struggling so much this season when the Jets' D is not so stout, the OL is not so good, and the run game is struggling? You can't have it both ways. If Sanchez plays like crap, he deserves to be compared to other QBs who played like crap.
Why are there Bills fans in a Jet forum? Why dont you wait a couple more weeks before you talk shit, because I dont think there is a chance the Bills finish with a better record than the Jets.
Where do people get the idea that just because we picked a guy that means we have to live with the decision if it isn't working out? That sure was not the case with players at other positions like Gholston. In hindsight, in 2009 we should have simply picked up a journeyman veteran free agent QV and drafted a player like Clay Matthews in the first round and our pass rushing woes would be a non issue. Just imagine if we drafted Matthews and signed Vick out of prison, I think that would have put us over the top last year. I wish Sanchez would play better so we don't have controversies but the fact is that he is not. You look at other Quarterbacks who have far worse teams and far fewer weapons, and they show they play the position better than Sanchez. Stafford went to an 0-16 team, played only partial seasons in his first 2 years and only know is he getting more weapons besides megaton. Josh Freeman has it the worst out of any the young QBs he is on a team with very few weapons and ownership that doesn't spend money and he is still better than Sanchez. You don't draft someone FIFTH overall to be trent differ, you draft them fifth overall to be a Rivers, Brees, Rodgers, etc. and that is what Sanchez is right now. How many seasons do we have to sacrifice before he can lead this team consistently? We won't have this core group of guys forever, people will leave for bigger money, people will retire, imagine if Revis leaves for bigger money we can't match when his contract is up, that puts the team in a huge hole. Sanchez is the most overpaid person on the team, and that money could be put to so much better use. I honestly believe McElroy could run the offense better with Sanchez with just a little bit more experience under his belt, he has no arm, but I think he could manage this offense better than Sanchez does.
When did Brees get good heck they drafted another QB. Give the kid some time 2.5 years is not a lot of time for one year college starter and no OTA's this year. It will not be until his fifth or sixth year that he will reach his full potential.
Let me tell you what this sounds like...A completely sound offense leading the Jets to wins in the playoffs with Sanchez at the helm. Not to mention, he was vital to the team. Get this nonsense somewhere else where it makes sense
Drew Brees seems to do just fine. The seeing the field issue isn't about height because a 2-4 extra inches isn't really going to change the view that much. It's much more about how quickly QBs recognize and react to what they see. Sanchez doesn't seem to recognize open receivers very well, and when he does recognize that they're open, he doesn't react as quickly as he should. Throwing late = INTs, especially of the Pick Six variety. QBs who are struggling with finding open receivers when receivers are actually open tend to throw a lot of aggravating check downs.
Well I don necessary agree but the point being that a quality free agent qb without INTs and a bit of vision and this defense would have meant home games in the playoff and potentially as much of a chance to get a SB ring
Hindsight is 20-20, but let's not forget where we were in 2009. Chad Pennington was finished and we were already going through a stream of washed up QBs like Jay Feidler and Brett Favre. If anything, from our prospective at the time, we had already waited a year or two too long to find "Mr. Right." So along comes El Guapo playing for a very good CA-weather team and he looks lkie the perfect one. If only we had waited another year or two, but who knew at the time? And we didn't want to wait any longer. We needed to start winning NOW. The new stadium was coming and Woody needed to provide "hope and change" to accelerate the optimism and sell his PSLs.
Because I like to keep my friends close (Ravens, Steelers, Eagles) and my enemies closer (Pats, Jets, Dolphins). Too frequently the regular media either toes the company line or has their own agendas, but fans frequently give a lot of insight into their teams' weaknesses and strengths. There are a surprising number of pretty astute football fans on team message boards. As for the Bills vs Jets, the Bills defense needs to improve greatly while the Jets offense needs to improve greatly. So far, the Bills have been able to compensate for their defensive weaknesses better than the Jets have compensated for their offensive woes.
sanchez has gotten very very gunshy this year. to the point that e en without any pass rush he still rushed his throws for a quarter and a half before he realized the dollfags dont have ANY pass rush.. at that point he settled down a little bit but for it to take that long to settle down is scary. if teams put pressure on him i am very scared that he will be gun shy.... which is odd because he has always done a pretty good job avoiding pressure and getting outside and making plays. the kid isnt a terrible qb, he never gives up and very often leads the team on big drives in the 4th quarter no matter how horrid he has played through the rest of the game. i dont like him but i can at least be honest about what i see in him, good and bad.
Confidence is an important thing. What we've been seeing is a QB with no confidence. When he started to play better, you could see him looking more confident. I just hope that it carries over to this week.
Short QBs get balls batted down more frequently - to me, that's an issue. And yes, Sanchez is not very good and probably won't ever be. I find it unbelievable that people on this board sit here and say: "just wait until he's 30, he'll reach his full potential then". What are we supposed to do, wait 6 seasons for a QB to show up?
was watching the raiders game with a buddy of mine who lived thru the 70's and 80's watching matt robinson, todd, and obrien in there...... he hasn't watched much in the last few years cause of health matters but made a comment during the game that stuck with me..... and i quote.."shit sanchez looks like o'brien on some plays". now u rookies may not have watched ken obrien. he was a decent QB with an above average arm and pretty accurate. However, he had NO pocket presence nor could he escape a sloth so he buckled even with the slightest pressure. of course the passing plays at the time took too long to develop and the OL was in shambles quite often. anyway IMO that observation is a stretch at this point but the jets have to be careful and not let that evolve. sanchez has to be protected a bit more than the likes of brees, mannings, rivers, rothles, etc etc. and the offense absolutely has to function around that philosophy. jil
Look at Brees's first four years in the NFL with the Chargers http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BreeDr00.htm
