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Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by impevan, Dec 22, 2006.

  1. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Yes, we are. That's why I didn't know what you were doing questioning my post about 40 minutes ago. You simply misunderstood it. No problem.

    I was travelling during the KC-CLE game, otherwise I would have been watching that game and laughing. The Jets blowout win was wrapping up while the Chiefs were blowing it in Cleveland, so I would have switched over to the Chiefs game with the Sunday Ticket.
     
  2. Jet Blue

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    Parcells makes decisions like that..

    That's not the debate the debate is COACHING - Game planning and taking advantage of your opponents weaknesses to Herm's rah rah we need to play our best styles........

    Herm technically isn't even a "COACH"... I can do what he does.
     
  3. Jet Blue

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    First of all, the Jets were healthy to start the year - If not they made a real bad decision AGAIN on wether or not to start Chad.... But, regardless, they made their bed and they started off ON DEFENSE getting dragged up and down the field.

    Do I think Mangini would have been better prepared, better Game planned and made a better decision on who to start up and down the roster HELL FREAKING YEAH!!!!!!!! Do I think Mangini would have had a backup ready to go knowing his starter was a long shot HELL YEAH!!!

    As for the rest of your post.. I really wish people would stop comparing Herm to the worst years of the Jets without factoring in parity and the salary cap.... Mediocrity, in todays game, with a few breaks is good enough to be a pretender and squeek into the playoffs depending on how the rest of the league was injured.
     
  4. L3JET

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    Okay, what’s your point stating that the Jets were healthy at the start of the season? 95% percent of the teams are healthy at the start of the season! They lost their starting (QB) and their back up in the same game! It was only week 3. Furthermore, the poor play of the team you saw last season was the result of the injuries. That's it, plain and simple. No team in the NFL could be productive w/10 of their starters on IR and working with a 3rd string QB. Including a 41 year old who came off his couch a few weeks into the season. That's it! Please let me know of a team that was productive w/10 of their starters on IR and working with a 3rd string QB? Regarding your comment about the DEFENSE. Yeah, Kansas City dragged them up and down the field in the 1st game of the season. What’s your point? Jacksonville did the same thing to us this season!

    I'm supposed to believe what you think? Look dude, I don't let the facts get in the way of an argument. Again, let me know of a team that was productive w/10 of their starters on IR and working with a 3rd string QB?Furthermore, how many starters did Mangini bench that started in 05 for the Jets?

    Are you kidding me with your comment about Mangini would have had a back-up ready to go? WE LOST THE BACK-UP ON THE SAME GAME!!! HELL FREAKING YEAH!!!! Look, go preach what you (think) to someone else and shove it down someone else’s throat…

    Quite simply, I will base my viewpoints on MY opinions, not on what you have to say on the subject. Sorry if you think everyone else's lives revolve around yours, and everyone else's viewpoint is dictated by where you fall on an issue, but mine doesn't.

    Merry Christmas!!!
     
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  5. Jet Blue

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    NICE Jet!!!!! As fellow fan, I like it. Seriously!!!

    What I wrote wasn't personal, I know you as well as Coles Knows Holliday.... ; )

    All I know is this next Jet game is HUGE.....

    As for Herm, I just think he knows little about the game and is 95% reliant on his coordinators to pull something out of their rear.... In the press conferences he's got little answers that's why he talks in riddles.... I think yet again. the Jets were unprepared to start the 05' season.

    I'm predicting he's got about 3 years Max left of being a Head coach and then never again....

    Mind you, I think he's a great guy and can really work well on a different coaching level.




    Merry Christmas!!!!!!!
     
  6. JetsIn2004

    JetsIn2004 Banned

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    While I agree, Mangini is a better coach, this is a ridiculous statement. It is possible to like Herm's style AND still understand football.

    I can't agree 100%. He's brought up decent talent. Remember, his regime drafted Rhodes, and Rhodes was a good player. There are plenty of examples of his regime not getting the most out of a young guy too, so don't bother quoting me that.

    I agree, Mangini is far superior to Herm, but let's not make ridiculous statements, please.
     
  7. L3JET

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    Ahh, let's not get wrapped up on this issue?believe me. I?m not getting personal! My opinion differs from yours, who cares! The guy is no longer the head coach, and the 2005 season is in the past. Like you said, the Dolphins game this week is what?s meaningful right now!

    Peace out.
     
  8. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    A healthy Pennington thankls to Mangini's rebuilt offensive line. People keep forgeting that Herm will destroy his team's offense by heavily favoring his defense (especialy DBs) in the draft while neglecting other areas of the team, notably OL. Pennington would have been a lot healthier with Herm if he had more protection.
     
  9. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    Can I poke my nose here...thanks!!

    Herms inability to develop young talent is one of his greatest failings...you can't say Herm doesn't understand football as he wouldn't have played as long as he did. What he doesn't understand, I seem to think, is how to coordinate an entire team. That is his job. Mangini gets this...therein lies the difference. It's the difference between a manager and an individual contributor...the manager gets the whole picture as opposed to a single discipline or side of the ball... Can't explain it any better than that. And I have to agree with the poster that said Edwards will be out of coaching within 5 years I think...he needs to be doing the motivational speaking circuit not coaching football...or at least head coaching...maybe back to DB's??? Seems to have worked for a number of would have been head coaches recently.

    Peace!

    The Mezz
     
  10. cres1604

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    or the dreaded draw.
     
  11. impevan

    impevan Banned

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    I think we are forgetting the obvious.
    rajensen=cinvis, and maybe, just maybe, rajensen=cinvis=Herm Edwards, himself!!!!
    It all makes sense. Sorry Herm, but you were terrible, put your application in for the Alabama job.
     

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