Nope ... just one year with an average-or-better QB. I thought we had one sitting on our bench, but for some reason, he's not allowed to play. I'd love to know whose fault that is so we can blame the proper person (Rex, Idzik, Woody, or some combination).
Now Cub fans are really the best fans in any professional sport. They've been waiting almost 100 years now for a World Series but do they complain about it? Nope. Do they still fill Wrigley? Yep. How can this be? Zero expectations and a great party atmosphere at Wrigley not to mention many extremely pretty women. Maybe Woody could learn something from how the Cubs operate. Stock MetLife with gorgeous women (discounts and ladies free on Sundays?) and lower expectations. That way, everyone gets something out of going to the game.
Good post. Of the 32 HCs in the NFL, exactly 9 have winning records after coaching their team for 5 or more years. Rex Ryan is one of them and the ONLY one to have done it without the benefit of a veteran QB. Rex Ryan Bill Belichick Pete Carroll Tom Coughlin John Harbaugh Mike McCarthy Sean Payton Mike Tomlin There are a few other good coaches who have moved to new teams, for example Andy Reid. But yeah, Rex is in the top 20% of HCs in the NFL today but there's no way he'd get another HC offer. Really?
You gotta be kidding! Putting Rex Ryan in the same category as all those coaches on your list who have won Super Bowls? Good coaches' teams IMPROVE with time. Rex's team have gotten WORSE over time--While they made the playoffs his first two years (thanks to a stacked roster), Rex 's draft for defense strategy has totally backfired and the jets are worse than ever in Rex's SIXTH year. I love it when so many people on this board excuse Rex's incompetence by wailing that "Rex has never had a veteran QB!" Whose fault is that? Rex stayed with Sanchez two years longer than anyone else would have, constantly crowing that "Mark (aka butt fumble) gives us the best chance to win!" What other coach on your list would be dumb enough or has ever tattooed a player's number to his body and then watched his prized pupil run up the ass of his teammate? Rex drafts a defensive player every year in the first round and wonders why his offense stinks (actually I'm not even sure he even wonders about that). He names Santonio Holmes team captain and then watches him melt down in the huddle, and then says we won't have captains anymore. He spends every summer proclaiming that his team is loaded and the players believe it and never put in the work. He doesn't even have the sense to teach his DEFENSIVE players NOT to call timeout on the sideline. REX RYAN is the common thread the last 6 years that has dragged the jets down to three consecutive non-winning, non-playoff seasons and their soon to be 1-6 record this year. Blame Idzik and Tannebaum all you want, Rex Ryan and his incompetence is the only constant the last 6 years for the jets. If you are worried about another team snatching Rex up after the jets fire him, I say bring it on--I just hope it is the Bills, Patriots or Dolphins.
I didn't put Rex Ryan in with those other coaches, his winning record did. At this point I would take Rex Ryan over Belichick only because Rex seems to get more out of a team with rookies, sub-par players, and over the hill vets. If you wonder how Belichick would have done in '90/'10 with a team marked by rookies and aged vets, just go back and watch his last game against the Browns of all teams. That being said, I dread if this team reaches the SB and a Jets' victory depends on Rex Ryan making 100 perfect in game decisions. At that point he may just wanna turn the game over to Thurman and MM and go watch from the stands with his wife and Sanchez.
No, I still take Bill B. I take Bill B the coach over Rex the coach, but I DO NOT want Bill B the GM.
I think if he gets fired he'll be a DC for another team. Don't see many more HC opportunities for him.
As far as Rex's first 5 years, the first two he had a solid Defense, O-Line, and Running Game that included several players at the end of their careers, like Bart Scott, and players who knew his system but weren't all that good, like Jim Leonard. He rode that as far as he could, then spent two years with the team in decline and with Sanchez still giving games away. That closes the chapter on his first 4 years. In year 5 out goes Tanny and in comes Idzik, MM, and Geno Smith to open a new chapter in Rex's coaching career. Ryan 'somehow' coached a 4-6 win team, a team that on paper was ranked dead last in the NFL, to 8 wins, beating several of the NFL's best teams along the way. Ryan's name was even floated as the 'HC of the Year' for that feat. Rex is now in year 2 with his new team (only 3 players remain from '09/'10) with a turnover pron Rookie (+ 4 games) QB, and a secondary ravaged by bad drafting and unforeseen in juries. So here are some questions: Can MM come up with game plans that push Geno to a higher level w/o killing the team? Will Milliner come back healthy and make an impact behind a highly rated front 7? Will AA improve with in-game experience or will he level off and continue to kill the team? Will the game slow down for Pryor so he can start making impact plays? Will Winters continue to get Geno killed 2-3 times a game? With so many questions it's easy to write Rex and the Jets off, especially after an 1-3 start. But there's good reason to hold off for a few more games: Even with 3 loses, the Jets are just 1 game out of the AFCE lead. NE has struggled this season, and does not appear to be a lock to run away with the AFCE. Buffalo is a mess, dumping their QB. Miami is a mess. The Jets are a mess. NE is a mess. The AFCE appears to be a very weak division this year, which means any one of the 4 teams could win it, including the 1-3 NY Jets, which means playoffs for someone by default. I'm a fan, so at the moment I choose to believe: 1- Our defense will play better as the season goes on with Milliner coming back and AA and Pryor getting more in-game reps. 2- Our 3 loses to date have come against very good NFC teams, which is much better than losing 3 straight to AFC teams. 3- Our first AFCE game comes against NE. Albeit on a short week, but I'll be watching NE the next few games to see if they really do stink and we have a good shot, or if NE figures it out and starts blasting every team they play. 4- As the season goes on, our schedule seems like it gets somewhat easier, especially after the bye. It's WAY too early to write off Rex Ryan and the NY Jets. My tiping point will be the NE game in 3 weeks.
You do realize that most of those coaches are part of the reason why those QBs blossomed? Rex assisted in the destruction of Mark Sanchez and is detrimental to Geno Smith as well. Enough with the garbage of not doing it with a veteran QB crap. If Brees came here with a crap no nothing offense coach like Ryan, he would probably be sent away just like he was in SD.
This board is quite interesting, especially when you've been on it for many years as many of us have. I remember the staunch Sanchez sycophants defending him to the end of the earth even as he regressed and got worse and was exposed for the fraud NFL qb that he was. I predicted that he would never start another full 16 game season as an NFL qb and would linger as backup qb in this league for a few more years. So far my prediction has rung true and I said this 3 years ago. The same thing is happening with Rex Ryan now. I've noticed the Rex ballhuggers have become less and less on here. Yet you still have the blindly loyal Rex fans talking about 2 playoff runs 4 and 5 years ago lol Talk about desperate! I also predict Ryan will soon be gone as HC if the owner of this team is basing his decision on performance on the field and the direction of the franchise. If Woody is truly basing this on a football decision then Ryan should and will be gone after this year. However we all know that Woody's track record isn't great when it comes to making decision based on football and not on all the other crap he's into like PR, media and selling tickets. So after 6 years we will finally be rid of this Ryan/Sanchez virus that has permeated and infected this franchise and a portion of this fanbase for wayyyyy too long now. Yet I say again, this will only happen if the owner truly cares about building a winning, improving franchise. If the owner is apathetic then he may keep this numbskull as a HC.
This is almost too retarded to reply to... Rex is the best HC this team has had since Weeb Ewbank, including Parcells. Yep, 2 AFCCG appearances with a rookie QB, and lets fire him, despite not having a losing season, and shitting the bed this year because the fucktard rookie GM fucked up the QB situation, thats on rex. Rex's only flaw, is being CB crazy, and cajoling the GM to get him high round picks on bad players (Wilson, Milliner) A sane GM, would have kept Cro here, and made the scouting staff find corners in later rounds, and taken elite talent with those picks. Neither Milliner nor Wilson is worthy of their draft slot. WTF is a strategic minded HC? Excepting Beli, there are no real thinkers at the HC position, It's sad to say. Parcells was a fairly good example of it, but there are next to none that are any good at what should be a chess match. GMs draft QB's..(and cut them too.) Yet a winning HC, who has not had an established QB, gone to the AFCCG 2 times and has a winning record, while going from bad to worse at the QB spot, needs to go? Please don;t register to vote.
That's the problem with Rex though - if he knew anything about offense and was not so stubborn in benching shitty qb's he could be an all-time great coach. Guys play hard for him, he motivates guys, he gets the most out of his defensive players, and he knows football - he just doesn't give a shit about offense. He never has, and probably never will. That has never been more evident than in his seeming refusal to tell management when Sanchez was here that Sanchez sucked (despite it being evident all along), and that management should get a proven qb, and now his utter refusal to play Vick (who everyone seems to know will play better than Smith, who is as bad as Sanchez). That is why if people remember, when Peyton Manning was available, I kept saying that they needed to do whatever it took to get Manning. Manning would have scored points in spite of Rex, and Rex could have simply focused on the defense. The Jets would probably be playing for at least a 2nd, and maybe even a third, Superbowl ring had that happened. But people said no Peyton because we had Sanchez (good call), because he was washed up (better call), and that he was one hit from retirement (I guess the message board docs who never got into medical school don't know as much as real doctors after all). However, getting back to Rex, after 4 losing years, he is not getting a HC job next year. He will coach someones defense and will probably get a job in a year or two, but not immediately.
Rex was asked point blank in a press conference last week if he had the authority to bench Geno for Vick and said that type of thing would be a "Jets decision." And Peyton would never have come to the Jets. A day or two after he was released, his camp put out a statement saying he wasn't interested in the Jets.
