thanks for sharing, we were all worried, wondering where your focus would be, and if it would be hard for you. I feel better now, one less thing on my plate..
Do you disagree with my point or are you just practicing sarcasm? If the latter, baby steps probably are a good idea for you. Nice start. The football related point is these Qb discussions are usually based on unsupported opinions when all we really know at this point (not that the situation can't change) is that Ryan has said he's comfortable going with one of the current Qb's on the roster. That and there are some other and developing issues elsewhere on the team.
I'm not sure it's as rare as you may think. Out of the top 10 QBs by rating last season, only 5 were 1st round picks. 50%. As far as career guys that teams have built around, I think this is a fair list: Manning Brady McNabb Brees Rivers Hasselbeck Eli Manning Warner Romo Roethlisberger Palmer Delhomme I'll even give you Ryan and Flacco, even though they were rookies. 5 out of 14 from outside the first round. 36%. Given the attention paid to 1st round QBs, I'd say that's better than expected. Not incredibly rare.
For this years TC, I don't expect Erik to supplant either Kellen or Brett. He will be the #3 QB. Down the road who knows, but it sounds like he has some work to do.
College and the NFL are really different. those stats alone don't mean anything or translate into NFL ready talent.
Goodbye Brett and Eric, Hello Brett and Eric? I do agree with the assessment. Of course TC will tell -- but I think Ainge will emerge as a true talent in pre-season, and his injury last year was a fabrication. Afterall, he did play in the SEC. Kellen will continue to be under-productive in preseason, and continue to look like a lost babe in the woods on the field. He'll probably fall to second or third string. Ratty will be the guy, and I think Rex knows it. Lets get him some weapons. Lets continue to build this sick D.
I don't watch much college football, but I did see quite a few of Tennessee's games. At work, before the draft, I told a colleague this: the one person I don't want the Jets drafting is Erik Ainge. He is just awful. And what happens? The Jets draft Erik Ainge. I didn't see one ounce of intangibles with this kid...he made bad pass after bad pass in the clutch and I don't see anyway he's not the 3rd string qb this year.
absolutely correct,... sorry if I sounded annoyed, but it just seems unnecessary (I am sure necessary is not a message board requirement either) to enter a QB thread to say that QB threads are tiresome and how bored you will be for the next how many months, but you plan to ignore QB threads so that you can focus on the other needs of the team... (as if it matters where your focus is) That post wasn't at all about QB threads, that was a personal cry for attention... at least to me it was.. but then, I'm sure that is also one of the main purpose of the message board. No big deal really...
Of course it's a big deal. I think a minimum of another ten posts from you would be appropriate. My post was as I said above. I thought it was straightforward. For some reason you wanted to go off on a tangent about it.
I agree that comparing their college stats is a silly way to try to assess the current situation based on how different their careers were, but isn't it also a little silly to offer up two plays as proof of the fact that Ainge will never be any good? I mean, I'm not pulling for Ainge to be our QB by any stretch, nor do I think he will be, but I think if you wanted to you could take even the greatest QBs and pick out two awful plays that they made during their college careers. I'm as anxious as the next guy to know who'll be behind center next season, but I have yet to hear much in the way of valid arguments for any of the possibilities - just way too early. Oh well - I guess speculation is one of the only things that makes the offseason tolerable and somewhat interesting! Here's to speculation! :beer: To the OP: 'threw'
This season, my guess at the depth chart will be: 1. Ratliff 2. Ainge 3. Sanchez Depending on how well Ratliff does will determine if Sanchez will or will not be the starting QB next season. Hopefully Ratliff is solid, so that Sanchez won't be thrown into the mix so soon.
Clemens costs more to cut, so I think Ainge would be let go and Clemens would be allowed to play out the last year of his contract. Sanchez if draft would have to sit his entire 1st year so I like your thinking.
Clemens may cost more, but if Ainge shows he's improved drastically and Clemens remains unchanged, then I think the Jets will not be willing to let Ainge go. Ainge was brought on as a project, and IMO, if he's showing something, it may be too soon to drop him.
If you really mean Clemens would play, can you name a recent starting QB who played out the last year of their contract? I can't think of anyone. Maybe I am just forgetful.
Can you have a guy on your depth chart who isn't on your team? Sanchez will be gone by 17, and if he somehow ends up there, we'll be fielding calls to trade down.
I know it happens and Brady is the best example but it is still not that common. Less so in recent years. It's not even common to find a franchise QB at the bottom of the first round anymore. I don't think Rodgers is, I don't think Quinn is. They play for their teams for a few years and then move on but I doubt they are lifers anywhere.
