Another Mass Shooting! College in Oregon

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  1. Cidusii

    Cidusii Well-Known Member

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    Oof, the news station here just said there have been over 140 campus shootings since sandy hook. Is it actually that out of control in USA?
     
  2. nyjetsmets89

    nyjetsmets89 Well-Known Member

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    Does a screwdriver have the capability to kill educators and children within seconds?
     
  3. JetsHuskers fan

    JetsHuskers fan Well-Known Member

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    That prolly includes the ones that are gang related and such. Heck there was one last month on Mississppi where one professor shot another professor over not getting a promotion.
     
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  4. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    seems you missed the point.
     
  5. Bellows1

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    The real problem is... No one wants reasonable solutions. "Reasonable" is subjective to the person and their opinion of firearms over all. It's been suggested on this board, that a reasonable solution would be bio-metric guns and ammo. There are also local authorities who abuse the power of waiting periods and background checks.

    I think insta-check at gun shows is a reasonable solution to the GS loop hole, and every handgun transfer having to go through a dealer is also reasonable. Yes it will be an extra expense, but it would also benefit both the buyer and the seller, by getting the gun in the right name and making sure it is a legal sale.
     
  6. nyjetsmets89

    nyjetsmets89 Well-Known Member

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    Hmm no I got it, it was just a terribly weak argument. A gun has one use.
     
  7. JStokes

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    Missed it by a mile.

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  8. nyjetsmets89

    nyjetsmets89 Well-Known Member

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    A more accurate comparison would be a screwdriver to a guitar.
     
  9. nyjetsmets89

    nyjetsmets89 Well-Known Member

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    You can compare cars and knives to guns, except cars aren't primarily used for automobile accidents. And knives may happen to kill people, but not like what a gun can do. Once again, a gun is designed for one thing and one thing only.
     
  10. JetsHuskers fan

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    Lol
     
  11. deathstar

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    Your New America.
     
  12. JStokes

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    Right.

    Designed for on thing and one thing only.

    To kill innocent students.

    Don't be an ignorant ass because you hate guns.

    Or be an ignorant ass, don't care.

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  13. pclfan

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    I'm trying to understand their reasoning and POV. I guess it's a fear that any kind of regulation even a logical one (which doesn't affect your ability to legally purchase a gun) leads to more rules and regulations and eventually some of them suspect that the gov wants to take away all guns. Pretty hard when there are 300 million of them. A lot of it is coordination and cooperation between agencies and jurisdictions. In some areas of the country it's harder to get a gun than others. I think a lot of these crazy people with a few more roadblocks to purchasing could be stopped and some of these incidents avoided. Not all because there are perpetrators who know what they are doing and are capable of getting around the rules and obtaining firearms legally and illegally. But if you could just stop 30% of these incidents it's worth the effort.
     
  14. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    You don't get it. I'm not comparing guns to screwdrivers. Don't be a knuckle head.

    Let me help you out. The point is quite simply that different guns & calibers of guns are used for different things. For example, hypothetically speaking, I could have one gun for hunting/camping that is a bigger caliber, say a .45. I could have a second one that is a smaller gun and caliber for regular concealed carry ... maybe a little s&w 9mm or 380. A third could have a night vision scope and laser pointer for the night stand for home defense, and a fourth pistol could be a long barrel .22 for target & competition.

    omgz, red flags!
     
  15. nyjetsmets89

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    I have no problem with using guns for hunting. But the argument still holds...I use an acoustic guitar to play folk and I use an electric to play Hendrix. Let's say, hypothetically, you have a concealed gun on you. You are approached by a robber at gunpoint. You really think he's going to give you a chance to take out your gun and shoot him? Please. This isn't the wild west. You would be shot immediately.
     
  16. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I have to admit you've made quite a compelling argument, especially the part about how you play Hendrix on an electric guitar.
    Let's say, hypothetically, you have someone pull a gun on you. Would you rather have one of your own or be a hopeless victim?
     
  17. nyjetsmets89

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    Not buying into the fear rhetoric, sorry
     
  18. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    fear rhetoric? Every person shot in that school shooting would have had a much better chance to live had they had a gun of their own handy. Instead they were hopeless victims in an asinine gun free zone. Fish in a barrel, just how liberals like their political martyrs and exactly what these cowards target! How dare you or any government official ever tell someone they don't have the right to defend themselves from psychopaths. How dare you!

    Almost every day in this county a good guy defends themselves, families or others with a gun of their own. The main stream media will never report those stories though.
     
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  19. JStokes

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    No the argument does not hold.

    My buddy plays guitar and he has ELEVEN of them.

    Different guitars for different sounds, different moods, different styles, different accompaniment.

    Skeet shooting, hunting, target shooting, competition, collecting, home defense, investing, trading, personal defense, display--there are dozens and dozens of uses for guns.

    They just aren't for killing children or innocent students.

    Maybe you should get more guitars.

    Broaden your horizons.

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  20. nyjetsmets89

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    You're right, they aren't just used for killing children and innocent students. But at this point in time, that is what they ARE being used for. And that reason alone should make us clamp down on this stockpiling of weapons. To avoid these incidents. You think a kid with Asperger's would fare well on the black market if he wasn't able to legally buy 10 guns?
     

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