And the two be offensive players for the New York Jets are...

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  1. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Powell would be a good back out of any formation. Forte is two dimensional, but he's been promised carries so he's going to get his carries.

    We have watched Powell improve every year even though he gets a very limited look.

    This isn't a position where it takes years to develop. Let the guy run. His only issue is possibly injury.
     
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  2. John Lombardo

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    Errr that was a typo. Meant to write slot.

    And yes, I somehow hit a the "w" which is not that close to the "t"..

    I wouldn't say fast is a word I would use to describe him... But I wouldn't call him slow. He has average speed.
     
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    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    he was clocked at 4.34 at the combine, its ok to call him fast. its just deceptive speed because he is 225 and jacked. dude could be elite
     
  4. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    The problem isn't the formation, it's the fact that we only run the ball from under center. 1st and 10 and the Jets are under center? They're ramming a dive up the middle to Forte. It's too predictable.

    Powell has the vision and explosiveness to run out of any set. He needs more carries. He's criminally underutilized. We'll also never know what players can do if they're not exposed to it. Maybe Powell can eat up 250 touches a year?

    Seems to be a common theme of not knowing what players can do here, because we won't give them the opportunity to do so.
     
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  5. LarryAlRalph

    LarryAlRalph Well-Known Member

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    This is Powell's 6th year with the Jets. He's a good player in the role he has and I like to see him on the field. But if he was the next CMart or even Ladanian Tomlinson, we'd have seen it by now. He's not.

    QE has great upside. I'd like to see him and Decker as WR 1 & 2 next year. I'm prepared to see Marshall move on.
     
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    Not for nothing but it was pouring when he had that drop in the second quarter. It was a weird day the rain would come and go and on that play it just came down really hard. I am willing to give him a pass on that drop because he is usually sure handed.

    He absolutely needs more targets. He got them yesterday and he dominated. Anquan Boldin is a good comparison. The Jets keep using Enunwa in the slot though for some reason. He hasn't replaced Decker as the outside reciever, they have kept him in the slot. I think he would do just fine spread out wide, especially in the red zone. maybe that would help with the red zone woes this team is having.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    for 6 years though they haven't came close to using Powell to his potential. Of course he's not Curtis Martin or LT, those guys are hall of famers. But he would be a quality starting running back in this league if they gave him more then 4 or 5 carries a game. He makes a lot of guys miss.He doesnt dance around the outside, he can catch, can block, etc.

    Instead of Martin or Tomlinson as comparisons, try Devonta Freeman
     
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    They like him in the slot for his blocking on run plays, but agree they need to get him outside more
     
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    From where I see it, with a better QB, keeping him in the slot is fine, Anderson on the outside was perfect, Fitz threw the ball late on one play and to the inside instead of outside on another, negating what would have been receptions for Anderson.

    Enunwa to my relief has really grown and I was down on him as a player, glad I was wrong about him.

    The jets need to address the oline by getting linemen that can run block a little bit better, I'm not talking about draw plays either.

    The guys they have just don't get any push in the trenches, I understand CG scheme but they get pushed back on almost every play.
    Even when they line up to run block they barely neutralize the opposing defensive line.
     
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    Hopefully we can replace Marshall next year by receiver committee in a sense. Peake, Anderson specifically. It would be nice to be able to have multiple options out there and not just a Decker and Marshall. Spread it out and make plays since that seems to be Gailey's forte.

    I don't think we will be seeing Decker for a while due to injury, so the Jets may need to draft someone too. Quincy, Anderson, Peake, Devin Smith, Rookie, ASJ @ TE could be productive, but it would depend on if everyone stepped up and if we have a QB that can get them the football.
     
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    I disagree with the OP.

    Marshall is by far our best receiver. Enunwa has explosiveness, but Marshall opens up the whole passing attack.

    Forte and Powell are fine in the roles they are in.
     
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    Gotta agree here. QE is fantastic in his role and is maybe a potential future WR2, but his (biggest) success is coming from a strong speed/power blend over the middle and mismatches on linebackers. I'm as frustrated by Marshall's drops as the next guy, but there's no doubt in my mind he's the best WR on the roster. Decker is actually a really good comparison for him.

    Part of the reason Powell is able to play like he does when he's in is that his legs are relatively fresh. Limiting his number of touches is part of what's keeping him good. Forte is regularly getting contact made on him in the backfield and making something of nothing. Our big strike to Enunwa yesterday was the result of the browns safeties biting on the PA pass that only gets set up when you're willing to feed your backs.
     
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    Enunwa is a faster player then Boldin. Boldin better hands.
     
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    4.3 is fast
     
  15. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I think they use him in the slot mainly because the footwork in the slot is tough to learn and they have a bunch of rookie receivers as depth, it's either him or Marshall now that Decker is out.

    That, and he's a beast across the middle.
     
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    I say it every week watching the game: "Why the fuck is Bilal Powell not playing more?!?"

    I don't understand your point about Enunwa. Dude is getting 7-8 targets per game and is on pace for about 75-80 catches and over 1,000 yards.
     
  17. NYJETS4life24

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    He's explosive. He bursts out of his cuts and through the holes. He should be getting more touches then forte. If someone watched the games and didn't know who they were they would agree that Powell is the better runner at this point.
     
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    Forte was getting like 5 yards a carry against the Browns, without him doing that Powell never breaks those big plays.

    Quincy is good, no where near Marshall but he is a good #2 WR. Needs to stop dropping the ball though. Hilaciouz blocker. He and Marshall are the best 2 blocking WRs in the league. Hayden is tough, this is why Marshall had a slow day, Gailey seemed reluctant to use Marshall in the slot to get away from Hayden.
     
  19. LarryAlRalph

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    Agree on Powell, he's much more effective as a change of pace. Nobody drops more passes than Marshall. And if you haven't practiced with certain plays or sets, you can't put 'em in on the fly during a game. It doesn't work.
     
  20. BrowningNagle

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    Hilaciouz ..... ? I'm not the forum's spelling cop or even your 10th grade English teacher, but come on dude. That's hellaciously poor spelling lol
     

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